Beer thread

[catmandoo62]

i go for the gusto!schlitz

[David Wilson]

Originally Posted by jplinville

I used to be able to pick up sample packs of Saranac at the Krogers in Ohio...that's how i was introduced to it.

Where in UT? I lived just outside of Ogden for 2 years, and would stop in the Roosters in Old Ogden once a week...straight up the road from the Union Train Station Museum.

A small town called Sunset. Not too far from Ogden. Right next to Hill AFB. Lived there for a year in 62-63

[David Wilson]

Originally Posted by catmandoo62

i go for the gusto!schlitz

They still make that!
Used to drink that back in the day. I even stopped in to the original brewery in Milwaukee and had a couple in the brown room.
Haven't noticed them on the shelf except for the Bull.

[jplinville]

Originally Posted by David Wilson

A small town called Sunset. Not too far from Ogden. Right next to Hill AFB. Lived there for a year in 62-63

I know the area well...we lived in Riverdale. I was out at Hill a number of times for different projects I was working on. We had to smile at the size of Hill's museum, and how proud they were of it. After growing up in Dayton, and going to WPAFB museum all the time, Hill's looked very small.

Did you get the chance to go up to Snowbird when you were there?

[retmil46]

Hard cider.

I got spoiled over in Scotland in '82/'83. My favorite was Taunton Medium Sweet Cider. Smooth and sweet, almost like apple juice, with a tang to it. You could swig it down just like apple juice - but about the time you finished that second pint, you best have a set of strong lips!

While I was living/working in San Antonio, HEB carried Woodchuck Cider, came in several different varieties. Not near as good as over in Scotland, but the best I've found on this side of the pond so far.

Scotland spoiled me on beer as well - after that, just about any of the major American beers tasted like they'd been processed thru a horse. Times I do decide on beer instead of cider, it's usually Fat Tire or 1554 - can't remember the name of the brewery.

If you're talking cheap pre-payday-just-because-it's-beer-and-I'm-in-the-convenience-store, then an oilcan of Foster's or Heineken will serve in a pinch.

[David Wilson]

Originally Posted by jplinville

I know the area well...we lived in Riverdale. I was out at Hill a number of times for different projects I was working on. We had to smile at the size of Hill's museum, and how proud they were of it. After growing up in Dayton, and going to WPAFB museum all the time, Hill's looked very small.

Did you get the chance to go up to Snowbird when you were there?

Snowbird??

I happened to visit Hill's museum back in 05, and you're right. While Hill's is very good, WPAFB museum is the ultimate. Been there several times.
I have a sister in law that lives in Dayton. And I usually visit the museum whenever I'm in town.

[coleyjf]

Well if you're talking beer then there is only one true real great beer and that is:

Bass Bitter ( The Red Triangle )

The best place to drink it is in "The Coopers" in Burton upon Trent (UK) where they make the best beer in the world ( I think ). It's all down to the spring water there.



Cheers

Jim

[elchivito]

My favorite cheap American adjunct beer is Miller High Life. Basically fermented corn and rice syrup with just enough barley malt to qualify it as beer. Same as all the other factory brews but I find it the least offensive.
As far as real beer is concerned, I tend to lean towards brown ales, stouts and porters. A little more on the malty side. The current fascination U.S. craft brewers have with overly hopped IPAs is sort of silly IMO. How about some balance?
***** Creek ESB by Grand Teton Brewing is a favorite, there are many others. Guinness Foreign Export. McEwen's Scotch Ale, Dogfish Head Palo Santo Marron.
I grew up on Mexican beer. Tecate and Negra Modelo. To me Carta Blanca is hardly heavy, pretty much like any American fizzy yellow beer, maybe a little more taste. I still like Negra in the summer as it's refreshing while not being insipid. The only Mexican beer I really dislike is Corona. Horse piss. The whole idea of lime in beer was invented by Corona as a way to disguise it's nasty skunk taste.
An interesting side note. Around Idaho Falls, Idaho are thousands of acres of barley fields. Most of that barley goes to a giant, state of the art malting facility where it is sprouted and dried and loaded onto train cars. Guess where it goes? To the Cervecería Modelo plants that produce Corona in Mexico. Modelo actually owns the malting facility in Idaho and employs hundreds of local Idahoans. Modelo is now of course owned by Inbev, the same people who own Buttwiper.

[tbomachines]

Originally Posted by elchivito

My favorite cheap American adjunct beer is Miller High Life. Basically fermented corn and rice syrup with just enough barley malt to qualify it as beer. Same as all the other factory brews but I find it the least offensive.
As far as real beer is concerned, I tend to lean towards brown ales, stouts and porters. A little more on the malty side. The current fascination U.S. craft brewers have with overly hopped IPAs is sort of silly IMO. How about some balance?
***** Creek ESB by Grand Teton Brewing is a favorite, there are many others. Guinness Foreign Export. McEwen's Scotch Ale, Dogfish Head Palo Santo Marron.
I grew up on Mexican beer. Tecate and Negra Modelo. To me Carta Blanca is hardly heavy, pretty much like any American fizzy yellow beer, maybe a little more taste. I still like Negra in the summer as it's refreshing while not being insipid. The only Mexican beer I really dislike is Corona. Horse piss. The whole idea of lime in beer was invented by Corona as a way to disguise it's nasty skunk taste.
An interesting side note. Around Idaho Falls, Idaho are thousands of acres of barley fields. Most of that barley goes to a giant, state of the art malting facility where it is sprouted and dried and loaded onto train cars. Guess where it goes? To the Cervecería Modelo plants that produce Corona in Mexico. Modelo actually owns the malting facility in Idaho and employs hundreds of local Idahoans. Modelo is now of course owned by Inbev, the same people who own Buttwiper.

Palo Santo Marron is one of my favorites as well. In the winter those deep malty beers are great.

[cmbdiesel]

Originally Posted by toomany MBZ

What comes out my home brew keg set up.

That's my answer as well.

Currently have a porter, a bitter and a pale on tap. Black and tans are the order of the day, lighter at first and darker later.

Got a couple variations on harvest/octoberfest beer in the fermenters now.

Summertime I make a lemongrass ginger and a basic cream ale for those hot days. Occasionally an hefeweizen, really should step up production of those next summer....

Going to be making the christmas ale and the New Years Grand Cru soon.

[cmbdiesel]

Originally Posted by coleyjf

Well if you're talking beer then there is only one true real great beer and that is:

Bass Bitter ( The Red Triangle )

The best place to drink it is in "The Coopers" in Burton upon Trent (UK) where they make the best beer in the world ( I think ). It's all down to the spring water there.



Cheers

Jim

Bass Bitter is a damn fine ale. Double Diamond is pretty tasty as well.
I tend to enjoy the English styles, and brew them pretty often.
I believe the traditional bitter is a style vastly overlooked in this country.
Little more body than an IPA and not quite as over the top bitter.

Fischer D'Alsace makes a real nice bitter as well, and I still have yet to try the Desperado. Beer made with Tequila.... what's not to like? I know I like a good chile beer.

[elchivito]

Originally Posted by cmbdiesel

Bass Bitter is a damn fine ale. Double Diamond is pretty tasty as well.
I tend to enjoy the English styles, and brew them pretty often.
I believe the traditional bitter is a style vastly overlooked in this country.
Little more body than an IPA and not quite as over the top bitter.

Fischer D'Alsace makes a real nice bitter as well, and I still have yet to try the Desperado. Beer made with Tequila.... what's not to like? I know I like a good chile beer.

I pick up the Fischer bombers once in a while. It's the only decent French beer I can think of off hand.
Question for you, as far as home brewing is concerned, what constitutes "cream ale"?

[cmbdiesel]

Originally Posted by elchivito

I pick up the Fischer bombers once in a while. It's the only decent French beer I can think of off hand.
Question for you, as far as home brewing is concerned, what constitutes "cream ale"?

For me it means a light malt structure
- about 7lbs of American 2 row a pound of honey malt and a little biscuit thrown in for good measure
and a low key hop
- Cluster or Galena, and no late pitches for flavor or aroma.
then a nice easy ferment with an American ale yeast
- Safale 05 (I am a huge fan of Fermentis products, and use them almost exclusively, and dry, not those $10~$12 a shot liquids. I do tend to reuse my yeast 2 or 3 times)

Agreed about Fischer seeming to be the only decent French beer. I'm sure there are others, but not that I am familiar with. Of course if you want a nice mead or mel-o-mel, France is the place.

[SwampYankee]

Free.
Cold.

In that order.

I drink it all, from Abita to Yeungling (I've never had a "Z" beer, must be one somewhere I need to try). I have a very open palette and can enjoy whatever is in front of me, well, except fruity beers in general. Although for some reason I do enjoy Magic Hat #9.

PBR's with my sis' and her fellow broke artist/musician friends? Check. Miller Lite with my dad? Check. Stella Artois with the sales rep. who wants to appear sophisticated? Check. Home brew? Check. Busch Lite with my cheap-azz late uncle? You get the picture.

While I don't really have a favorite per se, anything with a Sam Adams label is my standby. Boston Lager, Light or Latitude 48 IPA. Their Bonfire Rauchbier is also tasty. I prefer Murphy's to Guiness but you'll never see me turn one down.

I'm able to adapt to my surroundings so there will always be a beer for me to enjoy.

[tbomachines]

Originally Posted by SwampYankee

Free.
Cold.

In that order.

I drink it all, from Abita to Yeungling (I've never had a "Z" beer, must be one somewhere I need to try). I have a very open palette and can enjoy whatever is in front of me, well, except fruity beers in general. Although for some reason I do enjoy Magic Hat #9.

PBR's with my sis' and her fellow broke artist/musician friends? Check. Miller Lite with my dad? Check. Stella Artois with the sales rep. who wants to appear sophisticated? Check. Home brew? Check. Busch Lite with my cheap-azz late uncle? You get the picture.

While I don't really have a favorite per se, anything with a Sam Adams label is my standby. Boston Lager, Light or Latitude 48 IPA. Their Bonfire Rauchbier is also tasty. I prefer Murphy's to Guiness but you'll never see me turn one down.

I'm able to adapt to my surroundings so there will always be a beer for me to enjoy.

Guess swamp makes a cheap date