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Old 09-11-2012, 10:52 PM
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Some info on the film here:

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Old 09-12-2012, 01:53 AM
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On this forum too.
Not anymore. Chil got banned a day or two ago.
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Old 09-12-2012, 07:27 AM
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And things were going so well

U.S. ambassador to Libya, 3 others killed in rocket attack, witness says - CNN.com
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This is EXACTLY what B.O. has been hoping for. It will be the diversion of all diversions that will ABSOLUTELY DENY ANY discussion of his failed economic policies.

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Not anymore. Chil got banned a day or two ago.

I missed it altogether. What happened that got Chil nailed?
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Old 09-12-2012, 08:37 AM
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WHY DIDNT THE MARINES KILL THESE BASTARDS????????

WHAT IS HAPPENING TO US??????????
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Old 09-12-2012, 09:10 AM
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I'm sure that these are just a radical few and we can't blame the entire faith for their actions. Why, any second now, I expect to see way, way, way larger counter protests, in a peaceful fashion against these radicals for their actions.

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This is EXACTLY what B.O. has been hoping for. It will be the diversion of all diversions that will ABSOLUTELY DENY ANY discussion of his failed economic policies.

Hang onto your wallets and get ready for four more years.
Please Larry.

It was exactly the fear and hate mongering nonsense of pastor Terry Jones, remember the guy, he burned the Koran? that created this situation

He promoted scenes from the film to build hate against muslims in the US, Egyptian and Libyan media got ahold of that, now we have enough rage that has ended up with the death of Americans.

Stop playing your silly diversions song, the damn thing has nothing to do with Obama, except in how he now deals with it.

This entire disaster is because of hate mongering by idiots in our own country. Its a huge, and now bloody misunderstanding. For example, in Egypt, all films must have state approval to be released, so the average Egyptian would assume that such a film, (of which they only saw enraging clips that were even dubbed, their media is no better than ours) has US government approval, as they do not have the tradition of freedom of speech. Im sure its similar if not worse for Libyans

In my opinion, the fault of this incident lies at Terry Jones and Egyptian/middle east Media's feet for his and their out of context hate mongering using a stupid obscure hate mongering film made by an Israeli American real estate developer in California. Now its blown out of proportion, and good people are dead.
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Old 09-12-2012, 09:15 AM
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WWJD ??

What would Jimmy (Carter) do ??
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the damn thing has nothing to do with Obama, except in how he now deals with it.
Not sure it has nothing to do with Obama, but his response, or lack thereof, will be watched. I am also sure his response may very well be different in an election year. Hang onto your wallets...
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Oh yes, these poor guys were INSULTED! So they had to attack, burn and kill. Bull! They are responsible for their actions. Getting your feelings hurt is no excuse. I don't care what that idiot Terry Jones SAYS. He, you or anybody else can say all the mean things you want about me. Big deal.
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Oh yes, these poor guys were INSULTED! So they had to attack, burn and kill. Bull! They are responsible for their actions. Getting your feelings hurt is no excuse. I don't care what that idiot Terry Jones SAYS. He, you or anybody else can say all the mean things you want about me. Big deal.
right, im not advocating letting guilty parties run amok, but step one is to identify how this happened, and using our heads, not emotional invective, act accordingly.

Thats the difference between mob rule and intelligent response.

Mob rule is whats been demonstrated here, people reacting on pure emotion and hate built up by media and idiocy. We need to defend our compounds and act with intelligence.

I think avoiding escalation and letting the truth of the matter sink in is probably a wise move initially, thats probably why Egyptians attacking our flag weren't shot. In Libya specifically, the mob just killed a pro Libya and incredibly useful to them diplomatic representative of a powerful foreign power who was helping them get set up.
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Old 09-12-2012, 09:52 AM
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Should we send the troops in?
Obviously this was written before the US Ambassador to Libya was killed today.

This will sink the current administration because people are tired of being wimps.

Remember when the US, with the permission of Suadi Arabia, installed 450,000 troops on Saudi soil to protect the country from Iraq and Saddam?

The price of gas was 0.99/gallon and people respected us.

Some people only respect force.

I*f that is the case, they choose the path that we use by their lack of tolerance.

Can I freely bomb a country if its internal citizens criticize the US?

If so, let 'er rip!
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Please Larry.

This entire disaster is because of hate mongering by idiots in our own country. Its a huge, and now bloody misunderstanding. For example, in Egypt, all films must have state approval to be released, so the average Egyptian would assume that such a film, (of which they only saw enraging clips that were even dubbed, their media is no better than ours) has US government approval, as they do not have the tradition of freedom of speech. Im sure its similar if not worse for Libyans

In my opinion, the fault of this incident lies at Terry Jones and Egyptian/middle east Media's feet for his and their out of context hate mongering using a stupid obscure hate mongering film made by an Israeli American real estate developer in California. Now its blown out of proportion, and good people are dead.

Why can't we hold the people responsible, responsible? Stop excusing the rioters and blaming the US or US citizens' actions.
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Obviously this was written before the US Ambassador to Libya was killed today.

This will sink the current administration because people are tired of being wimps.

Remember when the US, with the permission of Suadi Arabia, installed 450,000 troops on Saudi soil to protect the country from Iraq and Saddam?

The price of gas was 0.99/gallon and people respected us.

Some people only respect force.

I*f that is the case, they choose the path that we use by their lack of tolerance.

Can I freely bomb a country if its internal citizens criticize the US?

If so, let 'er rip!
we had 8 years of tough guy brain dead foreign policy with Bush, and how much respect internationally has that created for the US?

Things were different when Bush Sr. built up for the Gulf war, then a respected power led by a respected veteran organized an intervention by an openly aggressive power under Saddam. The goal was to prevent the type of situation similar to WW2 before it got off the ground.

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