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Old 09-13-2012, 12:42 PM
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I am just getting tired of people who always lay the blame on whatever the people in the US did--and never any blame for the people actually doing the rioting.
What good does blame do? You can blame who ever you want but we have no way of holding anyone responsible. They are in sovereign nations. The guy who made the movie is a US citizen. I have never argued that he did not have the right to make the movie.

What I am questioning is what responsibility does he have for his actions? When people die as a possible result of your actions is there any responsibility? Blaming people who we cannot hold responsible does nothing.

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Old 09-13-2012, 01:10 PM
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perhaps it's time.....for Curt LeMay to be channeled:

" "they’ve got to draw in their horns and stop their aggression, or we’re going to bomb them back into the Stone Age. And we would shove them back into the Stone Age with Air power or Naval power—not with ground forces"."
Because that worked so well in the past.
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perhaps it's time.....for Curt LeMay to be channeled:

" "they’ve got to draw in their horns and stop their aggression, or we’re going to bomb them back into the Stone Age. And we would shove them back into the Stone Age with Air power or Naval power—not with ground forces"."

Yeah, those old fliers had a bit more resolve than todays bunch.
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:20 PM
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Yeah, those old fliers had a bit more resolve than todays bunch.
How did that turn out for us? We did win the war, didn't we?
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How did that turn out for us? We did win the war, didn't we?
Actually no, the Russians won it for you.

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Old 09-13-2012, 01:28 PM
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Sounds like David is saying that he is willing to put his life at risk for American Freedom as long as he gets to choose which freedoms are exercised by who, and how. Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. You are either willing to fight for American Freedom or you're not.
If you have something to say to me then say it to me. Stop being a coward and using other peoples post to address my comments. Man up or shut up.
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:50 PM
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If you have something to say to me then say it to me. Stop being a coward and using other peoples post to address my comments. Man up or shut up.
You need to back your attitude down a few notches...this is the internet, not your personal gym.

If you have a personal issue with him, then put him on ignore and shut the heck up.
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Old 09-13-2012, 02:05 PM
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You need to back your attitude down a few notches...this is the internet, not your personal gym.

If you have a personal issue with him, then put him on ignore and shut the heck up.
When you become a moderator I'll take your comments under consideration. Until such time, I'll conduct my self as I see fit.
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When you become a moderator I'll take your comments under consideration. Until such time, I'll conduct my self as I see fit.
Wonderful...another internet tough guy. Just what this site needs...
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Apparently the US Ambassador to Egypt clipped the balls off of the Marines charged with protecting US interests...

http://freebeacon.com/reports-marines-not-permitted-live-ammo/
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Old 09-13-2012, 02:16 PM
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Back on topic...

Apparently the US Ambassador to Egypt clipped the balls off of the Marines charged with protecting US interests...

http://freebeacon.com/reports-marines-not-permitted-live-ammo/
Like I said, they were effectively told by Anne Patterson, the U.S. Ambassador to Egypt, to stand down. And I still bet those Marines are pissed.

And even better, she wasn't even there putting her life on the line while she tied the hands of those who were supposed to protect the embassy.
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Old 09-13-2012, 02:19 PM
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Like I said, they were effectively told by Anne Patterson, the U.S. Ambassador to Egypt, to stand down. And I still bet those Marines are pissed.
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“A decision or order to set rules of engagement that you can’t carry live ammunition and can’t engage violent crowds climbing over your walls and tearing down your flag stems from direct orders from the Chief of Mission and possibly whoever the Chief of Mission reports to,” the source explained.
Given that the siege of the Cairo embassy unfolded over many hours, the source wondered if new orders pertaining to the rules of engagement were ever issued.
Ambassador Anne Patterson was in D.C. during the attacks, according to reports.
“I cannot believe that over an eight hour period that nobody … in that chain of command did not ask those questions of their superiors,” the source said. “These protestors did not just appear and within 20 minutes climb the wall.”
I guarantee they are pissed. Congressional hearings on this will begin very soon, I'm sure.
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Yeah, those old fliers had a bit more resolve than todays bunch.
So current fliers are a bunch of wimps? Asinine.
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Old 09-13-2012, 03:01 PM
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Actually no, the Russians won it for you.

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Hmm.... was that not a MULTI front war? Where did Russia get all those P39's? What would have happened if Hitler had not had to fight on more than one front at the same time?

It is indeed backed up by fact that Russia had the largest loss of life BY FAR, but saying that they won it single handedly is a bit of a stretch.
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Wonderful...another internet tough guy. Just what this site needs...

Don't lose any sleep over it JP. This has been his attitude for years. He's harmless. The only way I see his posts is when someone else quotes it.

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