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cmac2012 · #**136** 11-07-2012, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

So you're saying that it only politics as usual, and since the Benghazi incident could reflect poorly on "your" man, you will continue to ignore it and hope the MSM does likewise?

Try the new miracle word twister!

Botnst · #**137** 11-07-2012, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by WDBCB20

Very superficial actually, commensurate with the subject matter. Those who need more to be reminded that the Roman Catholic Church with its centuries of charlatanry has little or no credibility on any subject are simply not familiar with the church's history of violent depraved criminality, suppression of truth and foisting of falsehoods.

I see.

The same list could be accumulated for any religious or secular community or polity.

Yet people persist in believing there is something to be learned from them, flawed as they are by reliance on humans, doomed to fail for reasons great and small.

WDBCB20 · #**138** 11-07-2012, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

I see.

The same list could be accumulated for any religious or secular community or polity.

If you posit a gross generalization grossly enough you can inoculate yourself against being factually "wrong". You also end up not saying anything meaningful.

Meanwhile please "accumulate" for us a list of violent depraved criminality, suppression of truth and foisting of falsehoods in, say, the scientific community.

Try distinguishing between the occasional surfacing of such features as exceptions which are recognized, called out and corrected by a community's built in self correcting mechanism and these features being hard wired into an organization, indeed constituting the very boilerplate of their "holy" scriptures.

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Originally Posted by Botnst

Yet people persist in believing there is something to be learned from them, flawed as they are by reliance on humans, doomed to fail for reasons great and small.

We have met the enemy and he is us. You have almost pinpointed the problem. Rather, it's the persistence in believing nonsense that has been indoctrinated from childhood as being something worth organizing one's life around because, after all, it's "divinely" decreed.

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MS Fowler · #**139** 11-07-2012, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by WDBCB20

If you posit a gross generalization grossly enough you can inoculate yourself against being factually "wrong". You also end up not saying anything meaningful.

Meanwhile please "accumulate" for us a list of violent depraved criminality, suppression of truth and foisting of falsehoods in, say, the scientific community.

Try distinguishing between the occasional surfacing of such features as exceptions which are recognized, called out and corrected by a community's built in self correcting mechanism and these features being hard wired into an organization, indeed constituting the very boilerplate of their "holy" scriptures.

We have met the enemy and he is us. You have almost pinpointed the problem. Rather, it's the persistence in believing nonsense that has been indoctrinated from childhood as being something worth organizing one's life around because, after all, it's "divinely" decreed.

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Man made global warming

Air&Road · #**140** 11-07-2012, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

Man made global warming

My first glance at this sentence made me think of "Man Made Global Warning." I thought you were referring to yesterday's election.

WDBCB20 · #**141** 11-07-2012, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

Man made global warming

*Ad Hominem Alert*

Are you a native of MD or a recent transplant from, say, MS, OK or TX?

MS Fowler · #**142** 11-07-2012, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by WDBCB20

*Ad Hominem Alert*

Are you a native of MD or a recent transplant from, say, MS, OK or TX?

I get your "attack"

So you admit no flaws in the theories of MMGW? Its a confirmed, ironclad FACT to you? You are not troubled by any of the data or stories of how it was purposefully manipulated for political purposes?

No healthy skepticism allowed?

Botnst · #**143** 11-07-2012, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by WDBCB20

If you posit a gross generalization grossly enough......

Scientists who study human belief systems (widely known as anthropologists); when discussing faith, belief, and superstition, find it useful to understand those whose lives are based on faith, belief, and superstition.

JamesDean · #**144** 11-07-2012, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

I get your "attack"

So you admit no flaws in the theories of MMGW? Its a confirmed, ironclad FACT to you? You are not troubled by any of the data or stories of how it was purposefully manipulated for political purposes?

No healthy skepticism allowed?

Whats MMGW?

WDBCB20 · #**145** 11-07-2012, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

I get your "attack"

So you admit no flaws in the theories of MMGW? 1. Theories are tentative and need to be adjusted or discarded in response and only in response to peer reviewed scientific evidence Its a confirmed, ironclad FACT to you? No, see 1 above. However the data (some of the most massively independently peer reviewed and duplicated in the history of science) appears to very strongly point toward ACC You are not troubled by any of the data or stories of how it was purposefully manipulated for political purposes? Yes. and the scientist who did this (reacting in frustration -no excuse- to the constant denial being perpetrated in the media by non science based commercial/ -the real- political interests) was duly tarred and feathered by his peers.

No healthy skepticism allowed? Scientific evidence based, yes. Not only allowed but essential to the scientific process. Coming from blowhard, oil money owned, creationist, "legitimate rape" politicians , not so much.

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engatwork · #**146** 11-07-2012, 09:06 PM

man made global warming

cullennewsom · #**147** 11-07-2012, 09:10 PM

How America's richest counties voted - Felix
How America’s richest counties voted
There are six counties in the US with a median income of more than $100,000. Here’s the list. And here’s how they voted:

Loudoun County, Virginia: Obama 51.6%, Romney 47.2%
Falls Church, Virginia: Obama 69.1%, Romney 29.6%
Fairfax, Virginia: Obama 57.3%, Romney 41.1%
Los Alamos, New Mexico: Obama 48.7%, Romney 45.0%
Howard, Maryland: Obama 59.5%, Romney 38.3%
Hunterdon, New Jersey: Obama 40.0%, Romney 58.9%

WDBCB20 · #**148** 11-07-2012, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

Scientists who study human belief systems (widely known as anthropologists); when discussing faith, belief, and superstition, find it useful to understand those whose lives are based on faith, belief, and superstition.

I think our mutual friend Samuel Clemens took care of that in one line:
"Religion was invented when the first conman met the first fool"

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Botnst · #**149** 11-07-2012, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by WDBCB20

I think our mutual friend Samuel Clemens took care of that in one line:
"Religion was invented when the first conman met the first fool"

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Well, that does it for me. No need to look any farther. How could I possibly be so stupidly liberal as to believe that there could be another perspective?

Benz Fan · #**150** 11-07-2012, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cullennewsom

How America's richest counties voted - Felix
How America’s richest counties voted

There are six counties in the US with a median income of more than $100,000. Here’s the list. And here’s how they voted:

Loudoun County, Virginia: Obama 51.6%, Romney 47.2%
Falls Church, Virginia: Obama 69.1%, Romney 29.6%
Fairfax, Virginia: Obama 57.3%, Romney 41.1%
Los Alamos, New Mexico: Obama 48.7%, Romney 45.0%
Howard, Maryland: Obama 59.5%, Romney 38.3%
Hunterdon, New Jersey: Obama 40.0%, Romney 58.9%

Any sense of the proximity of large federal government employers to the Virginia and Maryland counties?