Money doesn't vote - but it decides what issues we vote on.

I would go this far: It influences issues. I don't think it is capable of forcing issues.

That's what Ross Perot thought too. OTOH, I've not heard of any paupers getting elected recently.

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I didn't ask him what he thought. Did you?

When you are a pauper, you have other concerns besides politics. Trivial stuff like what is for dinner.

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Yeah, AK, I called him at home and asked him.

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Oh, that is how you knew that was what he thought. Just wanted to be sure since I wasn't that sure what he was thinking. He didn't strike me as a fool and yet he was trying to jump for that ring. That was confusing.

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Paupers would have a problem greater than their possession of money. I mean, money is a pretty good indicator of success or lack thereof. Not a perfect indicator by any means. For example, Jesus was not born into wealth nor did he acquire any but his impact on history is probably greater than any other single person. But I think you would agree that Jesus was an exception in every respect. Most poor folks are unexceptional in every respect.

But folks of means, but not great wealth, also get elected. Like Clinton, Nixon, Johnson, Eisenhower, Truman, Obama, Hoover, Lincoln, etc. A mixed bag. Wealthy people provide a mixed bag, too. Like the Bushes, Carter, Harding, Roosevelt(s), Washington.

It would be interesting to see a graph of historically successful presidents vs personal wealth. I haven't seen one but I'll bet it is inconclusive.

BTW, we have been here before.

If a corporation can return a better profit by killing all of its stockholders is the corporation obligated to do so?

This isn't the only paradoxically schizoid malfunction in the current corporate scheme of things.

How long has it been since we had a legitimate government in the US?

Killing someone? Really reaching, aren't we? Can you show me some definition of a company that says it is supposed to be a humanitarian entity as well? We form a company to make money. It is that simple. Most are formed to operate within or bump as close to illegal as possible and some even do cross the line. At the end of the day, we can say all the nice words of "I care" but it boils down to making money. That is what my company is there for. To make ME money regardless of the nice things we might say to you about us caring for your wellbeing. If you choose to drink that Kool Aid, oh well.

Using your definition, there has never been a legitimate govt in the US or anywhere ever.

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If you take a look at how the campaigns fundraised, it turns out that the Obama campaign got the money and the votes.

The 2012 Money Race: Compare the Candidates - NYTimes.com

Your alternative should be interesting.

Deer, elk, cattle, sheep and goats are better hung by the back legs. For several reasons.

1. Beheading the animal in this position allows the most complete bleed out.
2. Front leg hanging stretches the spine more and can ruin some cuts. Especially on elk and cattle.
3. Back legs are stronger and meant to support the animal's full weight.
4. If the animal is not beheaded before hanging by the front legs, mucus and other nasty head juices will run into the organ cavity after gutting, potentially fouling the meat.
I don't know anybody who hangs anything by it's front legs.

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Anyone who actually knows about these things knows this to be factual.

Mine hangs sideways. Ask Paula Jones.

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I dress and quarter the animal head-up. I age the quartered pieces from the joints. I think that makes them sort of ambiguously hung for aging.

But I have also gutted deer head-down. And I've gutted and quartered them on the ground. Dunno if it was on tehir left or right side. I never knew it was such a hot, contentious issue.

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