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Old 11-27-2012, 08:30 AM
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...However, from my observations, I don't believe these small retailers stood a chance against Walmart. I believe Walmart is a monopoly and intentionally enters new markets with dirt cheap products to put out the competition. They control every aspect of the retail business model, from the supply chain through to delivery channels, and they continue to expand into new sub-sectors of the consumer goods market. How they treat their employees is no coincidence either. Walmart is to poor folk what crack is to a junkie, and the employees are like street level dealers, easily replaced. The American people are the losers here.[/FONT][/COLOR]
I think I can summarize the above thus:

It is unfair that a company which has lower prices succeeds against companies that have higher prices.

Walmart employees are slaves and cannot seek employment elsewhere.

It's poor people's fault that they are hooked on low prices.
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Perhaps you might avail yourself of a dictionary and peruse the definition of monopoly.

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Old 11-27-2012, 08:48 AM
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If you're low income you go where the prices are low. Walmart provides that. Raising prices will put a greater burden on low income workers. Great plan.

I detect a strong smell of elitism in this thread -- looking down your middle class noses at people who can ill afford to shop at Macy's.
Don't misunderstand me B. I visit WM much more frequently than Macy's. I went to Philly for the sole purpose of hearing the Wanamaker Organ recital. A belated birthday gift to myself.
There is a Macy's much closer to my home than that one. Prolly 2 or 3 'tween here and Center City.
While there, I also walked down the street around City Hall to the Comcast Center Holiday show. A free show on their lobby digital HD screen. A class free crowd, all enjoying themselves.
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First time I've ever been called elitist.
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:10 AM
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It is unfair that a company which has lower prices succeeds against companies that have higher prices.

Walmart employees are slaves and cannot seek employment elsewhere.

It's poor people's fault that they are hooked on low prices.




Yeppers, that pretty well sums it up .........


Well, I'm off to WallyWorld to buy some Mobil1 and stuff .....
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:21 AM
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Your WalMart has 0w-40 Mobil 1?
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:28 AM
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Your WalMart has 0w-40 Mobil 1?
Sometimes they have the 0w40. Sometimes they don't.

At the moment, I need 5w30 and an FL-400 for the pick'em up truck.

I will pick up some 0w40 if they have it. The C240 is up for an oil change in about 2000 miles.


The thing that always scares me about WallyWorld is the parking lot. They come at you from every direction.
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:58 AM
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I think I can summarize the above thus:

It is unfair that a company which has lower prices succeeds against companies that have higher prices.

Walmart employees are slaves and cannot seek employment elsewhere.

It's poor people's fault that they are hooked on low prices.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:19 PM
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Sometimes they have the 0w40. Sometimes they don't.
That's the only place I've ever seen it.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:23 PM
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Made in China, no doubt.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:50 PM
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If you're low income you go where the prices are low. Walmart provides that. Raising prices will put a greater burden on low income workers. Great plan.

I detect a strong smell of elitism in this thread -- looking down your middle class noses at people who can ill afford to shop at Macy's.
I don't follow. Say I am high income, why should I go where the prices are high? Why would I want to pay more for the same product just because I can afford it? Just because you can sleep with your sister doesn't make it a good idea, does it? Yesterday we went around to buy popcorn tins for our customers. Why would I pay up to twice more somewhere else just because I can? Wal*Mart sold the same thing for cheaper so after looking around, I bought it from them.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:56 PM
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To Walmart's credit (from a shareholder's perspective), they have managed to infiltrate all segments of the consumer market, including those niches typically enjoyed by the smaller retailer. One might argue these retailers failed because of their inability to adapt and remain competitive, and not because of Walmart's monopolistic control of the retail segment.

However, from my observations, I don't believe these small retailers stood a chance against Walmart. I believe Walmart is a monopoly and intentionally enters new markets with dirt cheap products to put out the competition. They control every aspect of the retail business model, from the supply chain through to delivery channels, and they continue to expand into new sub-sectors of the consumer goods market.

How they treat their employees is no coincidence either. Walmart is to poor folk what crack is to a junkie, and the employees are like street level dealers, easily replaced. The American people are the losers here.
Adapt or die. It is that simple. Find something that they cannot do that you can and do it well or close your shop.

Well, Duh! What business enters the market with the desire to share their customer base? Every company wants to be "The One, the Only". Every NFL team wants to win the Superbowl.

And? Are their employees deserving of anything better? Look at what they are. They are at the bottom of the barrel and they are treated like so. IF and WHEN they decide they cannot stand that treatment, perhaps they should improve themselves and get out of that rut. If I decide I can get better treatment elsewhere, I simply make myself better and go there. If I cannot do better, I take what I get since I deserve what I got. That's like if you came to me complaining about your lying and cheating spouse. Well, either put up with it or divorce her and marry better. You wanna argue about whether the chicken (bad employer) or the egg (bad employee) came first, go ahead. Bottom line is they are paid and treated like they deserve. They are the bottom of the barrel so I wouldn't pay them any more than they are getting or treat them any better. Dross is cheap. That is the Wal*Mart business model. Besides, what have they done for me that makes them deserving of my care? Not a damn thing. So if Wal*Mart can get some work out of them, so be it. They are not fit to be in many other places or get more.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:57 PM
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Yeppers, that pretty well sums it up .........


Well, I'm off to WallyWorld to buy some Mobil1 and stuff .....
I just bought Diesel 911 and Cetane Boost for my truck. Cheaper than Autozone or any other place nearby. While I was there, I bought creamer for coffee and other thing and refilled my prescriptions. Saves me time and effort chasing around to other places.
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Made in China, no doubt.
As long as it is the spec I want, I'm good. I have bought a bunch of US made stuff that sucked too. Remember GM?
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(1) there are often special cheapened versions of items made for Walmart that look the same but are of worse material. Not kidding.
(2) time is money if you're high income. Driving 30 min to a badly organized Wally World, dealing with ill-trained, slightly stupid workers, then waiting in a long line may not be your idea of a fun night out.
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aklim, you make a valid point regarding the employees at Wally. However, on the flipside of that argument, one might say those are the employees that Wally choses to attract (and customers they choose to serve). Look at places like Starbucks & In-N-Out for instance. Making lattes or flipping burgers can be just as mindless as manning a Wally register. However, these companies demand a slightly better employee because they pay for it (mostly college kids with some ambition). In return, the patrons expect good customer service, even though lower prices can be found elswehere. Both Starbucks and In-N-Out seem to be doing just fine.

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