I guess we will never know since she was shot with her own gun by her own son. May be if the son (that she knew was unstable so far as I have read) did not get a hold of them.......

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So how about this. Skip the gun safe.

I'll make my proposal really simple. You are responsible for your guns. If your gun is used in the commission of a crime you will get the same sentence as the person who used your gun. It will be your job to figure out how to make sure that does not happen.

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- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

But, we do already know because, by your argument, the guns need to be locked in the safe only under the condition where the owner is not occupying the residence.

She was the owner and she was occupying the residence, therefore the presence of a gun safe would have been meaningless.

OK with me, although the penalty is a bit over the top. Owning a weapon is burden. The owners need to step up and face it.

OK valid point. She still knew she had an unstable kid and kept unsecured guns in the house. As someonenpointed out there are safe available with quick access that could have been used.

A good motivator to make sare you take care of your guns now isn't it?

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- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

What if she had her guns out to protect her self from her son? Another victim of her own fear. Sad.

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Wrong. In my state, I have to do a transfer, which requires a background check through PICS for hand guns and certain rifles. Long guns aren't covered by that law, but many sporting goods stores do it anyway as a business practice.

Your state may be different...if so, petition your state, since it isn't a Federal Government problem.

Perhaps you'd like to pass laws that restrict Freedom of Speech. I know you'd love to take the Limbaugh's and Hannity's of the nation and keep them from speaking out against your chosen politicians...you've repeatedly stated as much over the last couple of years here. You've got to understand that it's the 2nd amendment that gives us the tools to guarantee the other rights to the people.

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There's plenty of unregistered guns in CT...they were grandfathered in...Much like will happen if the Federal government begins a national registration. If she were to buy a weapon in another state, and bring it into CT where it's banned, there's laws that require it be sold, permanently deactivated, or turned in to the state police.

While I understand, and agree with you that a safe seems like the most realistic method, it will be just another law that cannot be enforced until after the fact...meaning that LEO's won't know until the gun is stolen or used in a crime by someone other than the lawful owner.

I agree that something needs to be done, perhaps on a national level. but the less restrictive and best method would be to educate about gun safety, and that can be done in the public schools with posters and literature.

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It has to be in your control and in your possession, just like your luggage at an airport. If you're a sound sleeper, I'm not sure a gun under the bed is a good idea.

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So, by "certified safe", you're now saying not only fully locked up, but that the safe should be a fire safe as well?? Sorry...but are you aware of the cost of a 1/2 hour fireproof gun safe that will hold a hunting rifle?? $800 and up. Not everyone can afford a safe like that...

Will Obama care extend to supply certified fire safes now??

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This would be good, but conditional. If the owner had his/her guns locked up in a safe they decided to get on their own, and it was broken into while they were out of town...would you still hold them responsible??

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1/2 hour? No sir, 12 hours but not only fire safe, I want it explosive proof as well. And thermite proof too.

Actually, I want a safe...so safe that they'll need to make an Ocean's 14 movie about breaking into it!

LOL

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that will never stand Supreme Court scrutiny.

That's the same thing the simplistic, idealistic child on the corner said. There was a judge standing next her who said, "That's so cute, but it'll never happen".

I agree with you that there should be accountability in all aspects of life. Butterfly Effect.

No sorrow at all. She was a fool.
However, she is beyond the reach of any laws or retribution or punishment.
Focusing on her is, IMO, a fool's game. You are not, generally, a fool. I disagree with you often, but do not consider you a fool.

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