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Old 12-16-2012, 12:57 AM
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So we have established that you do not wish to sacrifice any rights that you have. What about the rights of the 26 people murdered in CT. The rights of the kids murdered in Columbine. The rights of the people murdered every single day in this country. When do we get to talk about protecting their rights? When do the 'gun rights' folks come up with a plan to protect their rights?

So far all I have heard from you and most of the other gun owners is no no no.. I have yet to hear them make a suggestion on how to fix the situation. As CMB said, either start playing ball or you may well end up behind the eight ball. People like me are getting fed of of seeing people murdered left and right and we are getting quite tired of folks like you saying you will not move an inch from your position. I think it's time you give a little or have a lot taken. Your choice.


Who the hell do people like you think you are? Stating it will be taken from us. Be tired all you damn want, you will not infringe my right. Elitist authoritarian BS.

People like you protest and demand laws for this and laws for that and nothing gets resolved (gun free zones). CRIMINALS DONT GIVE A FLYING FLIP ABOUT LAWS!

He shot innocent people and then himself. No law would have stopped that. You can cower and depend on a government to protect you all you want I prefer protecting myself.

Take this to the bench and people like you will lose.


Obama wont try a backhanded executive order no matter what his protester minions demand.. Political suicide.
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Old 12-16-2012, 01:43 AM
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Who the hell do people like you think you are? Stating it will be taken from us. Be tired all you damn want, you will not infringe my right. Elitist authoritarian BS.

People like you protest and demand laws for this and laws for that and nothing gets resolved (gun free zones). CRIMINALS DONT GIVE A FLYING FLIP ABOUT LAWS!

He shot innocent people and then himself. No law would have stopped that. You can cower and depend on a government to protect you all you want I prefer protecting myself.

Take this to the bench and people like you will lose.


Obama wont try a backhanded executive order no matter what his protester minions demand.. Political suicide.
You guys thought the see thing aboutnequal marriage rights. How is that working out for you?

Restrictions are coming. Gun owners will be held responsible for the weapons. Better learn to deal with it.
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Old 12-16-2012, 01:50 AM
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You guys thought the see thing aboutnequal marriage rights. How is that working out for you?

Restrictions are coming. Gun owners will be held responsible for the weapons. Better learn to deal with it.

I dont GAS about distorting marriage.

Held responsible for owning a weapon? What a delusional statement. Better learn to deal with the backlash if tried.

Saying my right will not be infringed is an elitist statement? The only solution you freedom grabbing lefties like is removing other peoples rights. Usually the rights that ensure privacy, protection and private property.
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:01 AM
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I dont GAS about distorting marriage.

Held responsible for owning a weapon? What a delusional statement. Better learn to deal with the backlash if tried.

Saying my right will not be infringed is an elitist statement? The only solution you right grabbing lefties like is removing other peoples rights.
Delusional to have responsible gun owners??

Why should your right to bear arms not be as regulated as your right to travel the highways and byways of this country as described by COTUS?

Is it a super right? Does it have special language that makes it holier and greater than other regulated rights in the Constitution?

Maybe it came from a better family of rights...

Your elitism is evident by the wall of self righteous grandstanding you create when you undertake to inform us how much more important your rights are than those of others.


And then there's this....
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Delusional to have responsible gun owners??

Why should your right to bear arms not be as regulated as your right to travel the highways and byways of this country as described by COTUS?

Is it a super right? Does it have special language that makes it holier and greater than other regulated rights in the Constitution?

Maybe it came from a better family of rights...

Your elitism is evident by the wall of self righteous grandstanding you create when you undertake to inform us how much more important your rights are than those of others.


And then there's this....
Transportation isn't "regulated". It's monopolized and funded through extortion. The CONstitution only refers to post roads, anyway.
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:13 AM
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Transportation isn't "regulated". It's monopolized and funded through extortion. The CONstitution only refers to post roads, anyway.
who said transportation?

I think someone said drunk driving though....
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who said transportation?

I think someone said drunk driving though....
Traveling is a form of transportation. Let's just all act like children I guess? Want me to edit my post so you can have avoided a slightly more accurate post? Because I will if you'll grow up.
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:15 AM
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Delusional to have responsible gun owners?? Responsible by your standards? What are those standards coming from someone that has stated more than once that all handguns should be banned.

Why should your right to bear arms not be as regulated as your right to travel the highways and byways of this country as described by COTUS? Now the topic of cars can be brought into this? I thought that was comparing apples to oranges?

Is it a super right? Does it have special language that makes it holier and greater than other regulated rights in the Constitution? "Shall not be infringed" means what to you?

Maybe it came from a better family of rights...

Your elitism is evident by the wall of self righteous grandstanding you create when you undertake to inform us how much more important your rights are than those of others. This statement is ridiculous. A weak attempt at a reversal.


And then there's this....

Oh yeah,
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:34 AM
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Oh yeah,
poorly constructed response right there....

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Held responsible for owning a weapon?

What a delusional statement.
delusional for gun owners to be responsible?
they're your words....

Cars are not the topic, my comparison was of two rights granted by the constitution, and wondering why you believe that regulation of one is acceptable but not the other.

How exactly would your rights be infringed? You would still be able to own/possess firearms as stated... or do you believe that every single kind of firearm should be legal? RPG's and teflon-cop-killers and bazookas.... maybe an M60 on your car??? I mean the constitution says 'shall not be infringed'....

Statement was accurate. You presume your rights to be precedent over the rights of others.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:14 AM
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Delusional to have responsible gun owners??

Why should your right to bear arms not be as regulated as your right to travel the highways and byways of this country as described by COTUS?

Is it a super right? Does it have special language that makes it holier and greater than other regulated rights in the Constitution?

Maybe it came from a better family of rights...

Your elitism is evident by the wall of self righteous grandstanding you create when you undertake to inform us how much more important your rights are than those of others.


And then there's this....
Actually, yes. The entire Bill of Rights are a list of as you say, "a better family of rights". They are the cornerstone to the freedom of all Americans. The founders determined the essentiality of protecting the populace FROM the government.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:28 AM
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Actually, yes. The entire Bill of Rights are a list of as you say, "a better family of rights". They are the cornerstone to the freedom of all Americans. The founders determined the essentiality of protecting the populace FROM the government.
I beg to differ. All amendments carry the same legal weight.

Wonder why they were not included in the original constitution, but signed in later as amendments?

Was this the first example of just sign it and we'll fix it later?
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Old 12-16-2012, 01:45 AM
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Who the hell do people like you think you are?

Be tired all you damn want...

You will not infringe my right.
Sounds like....

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Elitist authoritarian BS.
This is the problem that responsible gun owners are faced with.
This attitude will get our guns taken.
This is not rational discourse.
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This is the problem that responsible gun owners are faced with.
This attitude will get our guns taken.
This is not rational discourse.
Can't expect rational from the irrational.
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Can't expect rational from the irrational.

Typical. Control the conversation by insult and minimization. Since you do not agree with my belief of inalienable rights you just dismiss and accuse me of being out of touch.

The quiet majority will NOT stay quiet if this right is infringed.
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