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Old 12-16-2012, 01:46 AM
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End compulsory schooling. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Mommy goes to jail, and little Susie gets to find out about molestation from Mr and Mrs Foster pervert or psychopaths know exactly where to find lots and lots of victims, with unaccountable babysitters whom have zero tolerance for anything resembling a weapon for miles.
The calm and rational voice of reason speaks again.

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Old 12-16-2012, 01:47 AM
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Sounds like....



This is the problem that responsible gun owners are faced with.
This attitude will get our guns taken.
This is not rational discourse.
Can't expect rational from the irrational.
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Old 12-16-2012, 01:50 AM
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You guys thought the see thing aboutnequal marriage rights. How is that working out for you?

Restrictions are coming. Gun owners will be held responsible for the weapons. Better learn to deal with it.

I dont GAS about distorting marriage.

Held responsible for owning a weapon? What a delusional statement. Better learn to deal with the backlash if tried.

Saying my right will not be infringed is an elitist statement? The only solution you freedom grabbing lefties like is removing other peoples rights. Usually the rights that ensure privacy, protection and private property.
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:01 AM
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Maybe because you haven't read the thread, you missed the fact that no one is here railing against gun ownership.
Oh but there is...maybe YOU should read this thread.

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The weed killer/car/knives/sharp pointy objects BS is a complete red herring and goes right back to the lack of rational discourse coming from the gun folks.
Red herring ?....Weed killer is a catalyst for explosives...I know, when I was a kid i used to use it with sugar, finely ground, to make pipe bombs to blow up tree stumps.


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You want to know why we call people with guns when there is a problem?
Because every POS petty criminal in this country has a gun.
That's a problem.
I've never heard of a hold up at a gun show . Arm everybody over 18, everybody fly's naked and fine folks for not having a firearm. Game over.

Was it George Carlin who said, "....carry a bomb on a plane.....chance of two bombs on one plane are very small....."



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Old 12-16-2012, 02:01 AM
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Can't expect rational from the irrational.

Typical. Control the conversation by insult and minimization. Since you do not agree with my belief of inalienable rights you just dismiss and accuse me of being out of touch.

The quiet majority will NOT stay quiet if this right is infringed.
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:01 AM
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I dont GAS about distorting marriage.

Held responsible for owning a weapon? What a delusional statement. Better learn to deal with the backlash if tried.

Saying my right will not be infringed is an elitist statement? The only solution you right grabbing lefties like is removing other peoples rights.
Delusional to have responsible gun owners??

Why should your right to bear arms not be as regulated as your right to travel the highways and byways of this country as described by COTUS?

Is it a super right? Does it have special language that makes it holier and greater than other regulated rights in the Constitution?

Maybe it came from a better family of rights...

Your elitism is evident by the wall of self righteous grandstanding you create when you undertake to inform us how much more important your rights are than those of others.


And then there's this....
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:02 AM
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The calm and rational voice of reason speaks again.
Care to dispute the logic, or just want to skip to the part where you profess your hatred for the human race some more?
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:06 AM
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Delusional to have responsible gun owners??

Why should your right to bear arms not be as regulated as your right to travel the highways and byways of this country as described by COTUS?

Is it a super right? Does it have special language that makes it holier and greater than other regulated rights in the Constitution?

Maybe it came from a better family of rights...

Your elitism is evident by the wall of self righteous grandstanding you create when you undertake to inform us how much more important your rights are than those of others.


And then there's this....
Transportation isn't "regulated". It's monopolized and funded through extortion. The CONstitution only refers to post roads, anyway.
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:12 AM
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Oh but there is...maybe YOU should read this thread.
I actually have read the thread, whereas you have already stated that you haven't....

Maybe that is another example of rational discourse.

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Red herring ?....Weed killer is a catalyst for explosives...I know, when I was a kid i used to use it with sugar, finely ground, to make pipe bombs to blow up tree stumps.
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I've never heard of a hold up at a gun show . Arm everybody over 18, everybody fly's naked and fine folks for not having a firearm. Game over.
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Was it George Carlin who said, "....carry a bomb on a plane.....chance of two bombs on one plane are very small....."
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:13 AM
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Transportation isn't "regulated". It's monopolized and funded through extortion. The CONstitution only refers to post roads, anyway.
who said transportation?

I think someone said drunk driving though....
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:15 AM
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Delusional to have responsible gun owners?? Responsible by your standards? What are those standards coming from someone that has stated more than once that all handguns should be banned.

Why should your right to bear arms not be as regulated as your right to travel the highways and byways of this country as described by COTUS? Now the topic of cars can be brought into this? I thought that was comparing apples to oranges?

Is it a super right? Does it have special language that makes it holier and greater than other regulated rights in the Constitution? "Shall not be infringed" means what to you?

Maybe it came from a better family of rights...

Your elitism is evident by the wall of self righteous grandstanding you create when you undertake to inform us how much more important your rights are than those of others. This statement is ridiculous. A weak attempt at a reversal.


And then there's this....

Oh yeah,
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:16 AM
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who said transportation?

I think someone said drunk driving though....
Traveling is a form of transportation. Let's just all act like children I guess? Want me to edit my post so you can have avoided a slightly more accurate post? Because I will if you'll grow up.
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:20 AM
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Traveling is a form of transportation. Let's just all act like children I guess? Want me to edit my post so you can have avoided a slightly more accurate post? Because I will if you'll grow up.
Traveling is not a form of transportation.

If I said I was going to go away, would you promise to do the same?
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:22 AM
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Traveling is not a form of transportation.

If I said I was going to go away, would you promise to do the same?
Dang, sure looks like a synonym to me:

travel:
1. to go from one place to another, as by car, train, plane, or ship; take a trip; journey: to travel for pleasure.

transport:
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to carry, move, or convey from one place to another.
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No, you want to insult me, and act like a douche, I'm going to call you on it.
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Old 12-16-2012, 02:26 AM
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Canada: Tight gun laws
USA: The more the better!


Canadian deaths per 100,000 people via firearms: 4.78
USA deaths per 100,000 people via firearms: 9


Thats DOUBLE our northern neighbors.


Guess what it is in Germany? 1.10

Thats right, almost 9 times less than here.

Wonder why that is?
Maybe because no one there owns guns? Duh.
Maybe because the average person is much more educated? Duh again.

The other half of it is the failure of education and social improvement programs in this country... that's a whole different issue...but one that leads to much higher violence.

When you look at the list of countries we're right in there with for gun deaths, its pretty repulsive considering the economic divide between us and all of them:


Country Total firearm-related death rate Homicides Suicides Unintentional Undetermined Year Sources and notes
El Salvador 50.36 50.36 NA NA NA 2009 OAS 2011[1]
Jamaica 47.44 47.44 NA NA NA 2009 OAS 2011[1]
Honduras 46.70 46.70 NA NA NA 2007 OAS 2011[1]
Guatemala 38.52 38.52 NA NA NA 2009 OAS 2011[1]
Swaziland 37.16 37.16 NA NA NA 2004 UNODC 2006[1]
Colombia 28.11 27.10 0.87 0.14 NA 2009 UNODC 2011 [2]
Brazil 19.01 18.10 0.73 0.18 NA 2008 UNODC 2011[3]
Panama 12.92 12.92 NA NA NA 2010 OAS 2011[1]
Mexico 11.14 10.00 0.67 0.47 NA 2010 UNODC 2011[4]
Philippines 9.46 9.46 NA NA NA 2002 UNODC 2002[5]
South Africa 9.41 NA NA NA NA 2012 UNODC 2012[6] & Stats SA[7]
United States 9.00 2.98 5.75 0.27 NA 2008-2010 OAS 2011[8]
Montenegro 8.55 2.06 6.49 NA NA 2009 WHO 2012[9]
Paraguay 7.35 7.35 NA NA NA 2000 UNODC 2000[10]
Nicaragua 7.14 7.14 NA NA NA 2007 OAS 2011[1]

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