WTH is wrong with some people??? Shooting at CT Elementary School - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

davidmash · #1 12-17-2012, 11:44 AM

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There has to be a way to flag these individuals and pull them out of the mainstream BEFORE they cause harm. Then build some nice new facilities to house them and take advantage of all those psychology degrees that aren't being put to use.

On a different note, I can see in this case how he had easy access to firearms. But how do some of these guys, who are in their teens or early 20's, build up huge arsenals without anyone noticing? Anybody who buys a bullet proof vest should be on some kind of national register and be checked out once in a while.

Far easier to regulate the distribution of weapons.

Mike Murrell · #2 12-17-2012, 01:27 PM

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Far easier to regulate the distribution of weapons.

Just as it is to regulate the distribution of illegal drugs.

retmil46 · #3 12-17-2012, 01:57 PM

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Far easier to regulate the distribution of weapons.

Might as well regulate the distribution of automobiles, SUV's, 18 wheelers, etc, as well.

As horrific and sensational as this incident is, the death toll pales in comparison to that on our highways EACH WEEK - including young children such as these - due to stupidity, road rage, DUI/DWI, lack of driver training, DB drivers, etc, etc....

Yet we as a society turn a blind eye to this and accept it as an everyday occurrence, the price of doing business - we pile on ever more safety devices and features onto our vehicles and enact more laws - but other than a slap on the wrist and a monetary fine, for the most part we still refuse to deal with the root cause of the problem -

THE LOOSE NUT HOLDING THE STEERING WHEEL.

You can ban the MEANS (guns) of this incident into oblivion, but until you address the CAUSE and the PEOPLE that commit them, you're spinning your wheels - and asking for repeat under a different modus operandi.

Brian Carlton · #4 12-17-2012, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by retmil46

Might as well regulate the distribution of SUV's...........

Could you arrange for that............please!!

t walgamuth · #5 12-17-2012, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by retmil46

Might as well regulate the distribution of automobiles, SUV's, 18 wheelers, etc, as well.

As horrific and sensational as this incident is, the death toll pales in comparison to that on our highways EACH WEEK - including young children such as these - due to stupidity, road rage, DUI/DWI, lack of driver training, DB drivers, etc, etc....

Yet we as a society turn a blind eye to this and accept it as an everyday occurrence, the price of doing business - we pile on ever more safety devices and features onto our vehicles and enact more laws - but other than a slap on the wrist and a monetary fine, for the most part we still refuse to deal with the root cause of the problem -

THE LOOSE NUT HOLDING THE STEERING WHEEL.

You can ban the MEANS (guns) of this incident into oblivion, but until you address the CAUSE and the PEOPLE that commit them, you're spinning your wheels - and asking for repeat under a different modus operandi.

Hello, we do regulate the use of motor vehicles. People must pass a test to get a license. No reason not to do that with guns.

Brian Carlton · #6 12-17-2012, 04:27 PM

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Hello, we do regulate the use of motor vehicles. People must pass a test to get a license. No reason not to do that with guns.

You do understand that all the gun regulations that you could possibly dream up would not have stopped this tragedy?

You also understand that CT has some of the toughest gun laws in the country and it had absolutely no effect in stopping this tragedy?

So, go ahead and propose all kinds of regulations that will make it more difficult for the average person to have a gun. After you do that, don't be at all surprised if the ongoing random violence against unarmed assembled masses continues unabated.

t walgamuth · #7 12-17-2012, 04:31 PM

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You do understand that all the gun regulations that you could possibly dream up would not have stopped this tragedy?

You also understand that CT has some of the toughest gun laws in the country and it had absolutely no effect in stopping this tragedy?

So, go ahead and propose all kinds of regulations that will make it more difficult for the average person to have a gun. After you do that, don't be at all surprised if the ongoing random violence against unarmed assembled masses continues unabated.

If you read my posts you will not find I advocate making it more difficult for the average person to obtain guns.

I heard on the radio today that in Israel young men of a certain age are trained as soldiers and are required to carry their weapons all the time. Other people are entitled to own one rifle and one pistol IIRC.

According to this show, Israel is the second most armed country in the world after the US. Of course they have mass shootings all the time by deranged zealots.

Brian Carlton · #8 12-17-2012, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

If you read my posts you will not find I advocate making it more difficult for the average person to obtain guns.

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Hello, we do regulate the use of motor vehicles. People must pass a test to get a license. No reason not to do that with guns.

I've got some bad news for you.

Somebody has hijacked your account.

Apparently there is an alter ego posting diametrically opposing statements regarding regulation of guns. I know you wouldn't do that.

davidmash · #9 12-18-2012, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

You do understand that all the gun regulations that you could possibly dream up would not have stopped this tragedy?

You also understand that CT has some of the toughest gun laws in the country and it had absolutely no effect in stopping this tragedy?

So, go ahead and propose all kinds of regulations that will make it more difficult for the average person to have a gun. After you do that, don't be at all surprised if the ongoing random violence against unarmed assembled masses continues unabated.

How about the one where guns not in use are required to be stored in a certified gun safe? That might have stopped him.

Brian Carlton · #10 12-18-2012, 12:13 PM

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How about the one where guns not in use are required to be stored in a certified gun safe? That might have stopped him.

I have no issue with any regulation that you want to pass.

Do you believe that the requirement would be adhered to by most of the population? In fact, the type of individual who would deliberately flaunt the law is exactly the type of individual who might have a relative or a child who would take that weapon............you know, the DB's of society?

davidmash · #11 12-19-2012, 11:11 AM

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I have no issue with any regulation that you want to pass.

Do you believe that the requirement would be adhered to by most of the population? In fact, the type of individual who would deliberately flaunt the law is exactly the type of individual who might have a relative or a child who would take that weapon............you know, the DB's of society?

Not sure. I would think jail time would be a good incentive. How about we pass it and find out? We could always come up with other ideas should this one fail. Not like the plane was invented on the first try.

cmac2012 · #12 12-17-2012, 05:55 PM

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Hello, we do regulate the use of motor vehicles. People must pass a test to get a license. No reason not to do that with guns.

One remark I heard was that it's easier to buy a gun than it is to adopt a pet from a shelter.

Botnst · #13 12-17-2012, 05:58 PM

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Hello, we do regulate the use of motor vehicles. People must pass a test to get a license. No reason not to do that with guns.

We regulate the public use of automobiles. You can legally drive your unregistered car all over your property.

JB3 · #14 12-17-2012, 06:14 PM

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We regulate the public use of automobiles. You can legally drive your unregistered car all over your property.

depending on state and county, but plenty of places you cant.

The whole gun vs cars argument is weak anyway. One is a transportation device that can be dangerous when misapplied or used improperly, the other is a tool for killing things, which can only be dangerous.

MagnumPI · #15 12-17-2012, 06:15 PM

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depending on state and county, but plenty of places you cant.

The whole gun vs cars argument is weak anyway. One is a transportation device that can be dangerous when misapplied or used improperly, the other is a tool for killing things, which can only be dangerous.

Yet, more people die in car accidents.