This thread is intellectually dishonest. The premise that it is time to discuss gun control translates to:

"We all know that the gun control laws have already been written some time ago and we have been waiting for an excellent opportunity like this to ram them down your throat again."

"Discuss" translates to "shut up and listen, we don't give a damn what you think". "We write the laws and you live by them".

I didn't call him a thug.

I called you out for this statement:

This makes him a "criminal that carries a gun to do his 'job'.


You went OT and attempted to derail the argument.


How would you like to explain your position to the 20 sets of parents? When you think about that, you then realize how ridiculous your position actually is.


The only way you keep your position is to accept the ongoing mass murders that will continue to occur because they don't happen frequently enough to warrant any government action. If this is your position, please state it openly.

It's a valid position, IMHO. Far more people will killed by automobiles on Friday than were killed by a wacko with a gun.

Hello, we do regulate the use of motor vehicles. People must pass a test to get a license. No reason not to do that with guns.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

I don't think I made my self clear. When we're talking about thugs I think we're talking about career criminals. Because I can't to find a thug in this story only a very sick individual a mother that didn't took responsibility and 28 victims.

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You do understand that all the gun regulations that you could possibly dream up would not have stopped this tragedy?

You also understand that CT has some of the toughest gun laws in the country and it had absolutely no effect in stopping this tragedy?

So, go ahead and propose all kinds of regulations that will make it more difficult for the average person to have a gun. After you do that, don't be at all surprised if the ongoing random violence against unarmed assembled masses continues unabated.

No, you didn't make yourself clear.

What you did was to derail the argument and refer to career criminals and thugs, neither of which, by your own admission, were responsible for this tragedy.

So, therefore, I conclude that your statements were OT and unrelated to any of the current discussion regarding random acts of violence against assembled masses of unarmed civilians.

The question begs whether you deliberately derailed the thread or are just unable to follow the thread?

If you read my posts you will not find I advocate making it more difficult for the average person to obtain guns.

I heard on the radio today that in Israel young men of a certain age are trained as soldiers and are required to carry their weapons all the time. Other people are entitled to own one rifle and one pistol IIRC.

According to this show, Israel is the second most armed country in the world after the US. Of course they have mass shootings all the time by deranged zealots.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

That was tried in 2001, spurred by the West Paducah, KY school shooting death of 3 teenagers that were praying before school. Perhaps now we have enough concrete evidence to prove it. I'm all for getting rid of those games.

I searched through my son's collection of video games, which are rarely played, and 6 of them fall into the category of what I deem as being too violent. I'm ok with the ones that have you fight some of the historic battles, but the zombie shooting bonus parts of the games are more than a bit disturbing.

Like I said, he doesn't play much video games anymore. 14 months ago, when I gained custody of the kids, the boy was a wreck. He had so much anger and angst in him, that he was ready to explode. After he and I bumped chests a few times, and he picked himself back up off of the floor, he realized that I was going to win, and that the video game time would only come when I felt he earned it. After 6 months of not being allowed to touch his XBOX, he started earning the ability to play, no more than an hour at a time, and no more than 3 times a week. Since then, he's cut himself back to no more than once a week, and only when he's got a friend over.

I personally believe that his mother's practice of allowing him unlimited time playing these violent games were having an effect on him. What was once an angry boy has grown into a calm, respectful young man.

Violence in video games, unfettered internet access, and violence coming from movies and television is one of the biggest blames to the violence going on today, IMHO

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I've got some bad news for you.

Somebody has hijacked your account.

Apparently there is an alter ego posting diametrically opposing statements regarding regulation of guns. I know you wouldn't do that.

Nothing deliberately.

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Your hatred of the US and it's soldiers is amazing. This massacre wasn't caused by a soldier, it was caused by a 20 year old nutjob.

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Those people were killed with her weapons.

What part of that fact indicates that she was anything but responsible?

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1983 300SD - 305000
1984 Toyota Landcruiser - 190000
1994 GMC Jimmy - 203000

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Here's something to think about...Our society likes to put kids on Ritalin to control them while in school. I was one of those children for 3 years of my life. Back then, then called AD/HD/ADD Hyperactivity. The schools would find kids that had more active brains and personalities, send them to the school psychologist, who would refer the child to a psychiatrist, who would prescribe Sylert or Ritalin. Long term effects of this drug has helped create more problems than it fixed.

http://www.neurosoup.com/pdf/effects_of_longterm_ritalin_use.pdf

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Those places were closing prior to Reagan's administration...nice try at making it a political problem, though.

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You must have missed one of my earlier posts where I gave a number of instances where things were stopped by someone else with a gun that wasn't a cop.

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