Gun regulation and controls don't accomplish anything they are written to do. The regulation explained by some of the LWNJ on this site are nothing more than grease for the slope we are already on. Gun free zones and the strict gun laws in effect did nothing they were PROMISED they would do. Especially in this tragedy. But here they are screaming for more. They lay in wait for the next tragedy and jump up with their false concern while pushing their agenda in the name of saving the children. Propped up by manipulated data and a solid self opinion that they know better than anyone else.

They refuse to realize that they dig at their own country's foundation. Or maybe they do. Anyone bent on controlling or modifying another persons rights is a thief.

If there were real concern for this tragedy their energy would be focused on helping the families through this time. Not immediately aiming this at controlling rights.

Yes, adding restrictions or loops to jump through is infringing. Most prisoners have the right to life. Just regulated versions of it.

On a side note, I wonder which fat guy is going to make a movie about this and make millions while getting pats on the back.

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How are you going to implement this? How are you going to make sure everyone has gun safes and that is the only place they keep their guns?

Again, most of my guns are in a safe, but two are loaded at all times and easily accessible to anyone in my immediate family. They are to be used in a case of home defense only, and those that live in my home know their location as well as how to use them properly. I refuse to keep ALL of my weapons in a safe.

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This slope argument is so tiresome. There's NO evidence for it. When the assault weapons ban was put into place, the nutjobs were just sure it was the end of 2A rights. The slippery slope argument was the first thing out of their big mouths. If it's a slope, it must be REALLY GRADUAL. Gimme a break already.

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Yeah, let's arrest people for what they might do. Good idea.

you said that. If they are in the zone and have a gun they have done something.

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In comparison to the gun control folks, who carefully review actual data and consider it in their decision-making process.

The government. History has demonstrated the long-term track records of governments relationships with their peoples.

Lets see, make up a term (assault weapon), regulate it then wait till the next tragedy and call for a complete gun ban. Your right, a gradual slope.

U.S. Gun Laws: A History : NPR

Chicago has been doing this since the seventies and has some of the strictest laws on gun control. To no avail. But the regulation does not stop. Just keeps snow balling into more loop holes to jump through while the criminals play "shoot em up".

Why not call gun control into a vote when there isn't a tragedy nearby. Oh wait, never let a crisis go to waste.

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You have just adopted the argument of the police state. I suggest "The Trial" by Franz Kafka as a good introduction to what you advocate.

You have a problem with arresting someone who is breaking the law?

That makes a police state?

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I have a problem with making laws so that people can be arrested who otherwise were doing no harm. That's a police state.

Me too.

i envision the law being useful when you have someone causing trouble and you discover they are packing.

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Since when was dropping your kid off at school causing trouble?

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I do not believe this boilerplate argument fits the discussion we have been having here. That argument is for a different set of people with different ideas.
And the slope business is so completely hackneyed as to be laughable

One could just as easily argue that the RWNJ gun freaks leap out within seconds of a tragedy screaming "GUN GRABBERS!!!!!!" Happens every time.
They trot out their numbers which show that our murder rates are declining, and have been for years, without mentioning that they are still heads and tails higher than any other civilized country.
Cutting and pasting the dictionary.com definition of 'infringe', all the while suggesting that other people must suffer restrictions on their freedoms because the 2nd shall never be restricted. (unlike restrictions on the 1st and 4th which a vast majority of citizens accept as reasonable and responsible.)

The foundation is eroding, it needs shoring up.
Again, how can you accept restrictions on some rights but not others? Because it directly impacts your toys?????
Anyone who kills others is a thief.


Get real. You shouldn't be posting or reading this, you should be out helping the families.

No it isn't. It is responsible government.
You do realize that amendments can be repealed?
Keep taking the hard line, and that may be on our horizon.

I don't know, but whoever it is, is likely a DB.

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How would your approach have helped in the instance of this, or any other murder?