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Old 12-20-2012, 10:06 PM
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You really don't understand CT gun laws do you David?

If she did survive she would be prosecuted. As a firearms owner in CT you are VERY responsible for a stolen gun, it has to be reported right away to the police. You also have to report any change of address within 72 hours I think, or you can get in big trouble.

When you buy a firearm in CT its serial number is registered to your name.

Its no different than loading your kid up on vodka, and handing him the keys to your car, than he smashes it into a playground.

Jail time for the owner, plus big civil penalties.
What if she buy s the gun in TX and does not tell anyone? Are you telling me there are no unregistered gun in CT?

Again, the safe is so that the kid does not gain access to the gun. I would like to reduce the possibility of the kid getting the gun. The safe seems like the most realistic method to accomplish that.
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:01 AM
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What if she buy s the gun in TX and does not tell anyone? Are you telling me there are no unregistered gun in CT?

Again, the safe is so that the kid does not gain access to the gun. I would like to reduce the possibility of the kid getting the gun. The safe seems like the most realistic method to accomplish that.
I suspect that it really comes down to cost.

For every gun safe you buy, you could've had another gun....
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:09 AM
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I suspect that it really comes down to cost.

For every gun safe you buy, you could've had another gun....

"Hey DB..........can you just wait there two minutes before you try to shoot my ass..........I need to go unlock my gun safe. I have to keep my guns in the safe now because Nancy Pelosi made me do it.

I'll be back in two minutes."
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:36 AM
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"Hey DB..........can you just wait there two minutes before you try to shoot my ass..........I need to go unlock my gun safe. I have to keep my guns in the safe now because Nancy Pelosi made me do it.

I'll be back in two minutes."
The safe is for when you have left the house and the guns are unattended.
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The safe is for when you have left the house and the guns are unattended.
The woman was living in her own house with her DB son.

How would a locked gun safe have worked out for her?
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:52 AM
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The woman was living in her own house with her DB son.

How would a locked gun safe have worked out for her?
I guess we will never know since she was shot with her own gun by her own son. May be if the son (that she knew was unstable so far as I have read) did not get a hold of them.......
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I guess we will never know since she was shot with her own gun by her own son. May be if the son (that she knew was unstable so far as I have read) did not get a hold of them.......
But, we do already know because, by your argument, the guns need to be locked in the safe only under the condition where the owner is not occupying the residence.

She was the owner and she was occupying the residence, therefore the presence of a gun safe would have been meaningless.
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"Hey DB..........can you just wait there two minutes before you try to shoot my ass..........I need to go unlock my gun safe. I have to keep my guns in the safe now because Nancy Pelosi made me do it.

I'll be back in two minutes."
Keep a loaded one on your person, under your bed, anywhere you want as long as you are there with it.
You are only able to use it when you are near it, so when you are there, keep it wherever you like.
When you are not, put it in a safe.

Don't think of it as gun control, picture anti-theft...


And just as an added bonus, if your house catches on fire, the life it saves could be a fireman's.
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Keep a loaded one on your person, under your bed, anywhere you want as long as you are there with it.
You are only able to use it when you are near it, so when you are there, keep it wherever you like.
When you are not, put it in a safe.

Don't think of it as gun control, picture anti-theft...


And just as an added bonus, if your house catches on fire, the life it saves could be a fireman's.

All well and good if there is absolutely no other person who ever comes into your house. If they do, or they live with you, the problem begins anew if any weapons are readily available.
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Old 12-21-2012, 12:56 AM
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All well and good if there is absolutely no other person who ever comes into your house. If they do, or they live with you, the problem begins anew if any weapons are readily available.
So how about this. Skip the gun safe.

I'll make my proposal really simple. You are responsible for your guns. If your gun is used in the commission of a crime you will get the same sentence as the person who used your gun. It will be your job to figure out how to make sure that does not happen.
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So how about this. Skip the gun safe.

I'll make my proposal really simple. You are responsible for your guns. If your gun is used in the commission of a crime you will get the same sentence as the person who used your gun. It will be your job to figure out how to make sure that does not happen.
OK with me, although the penalty is a bit over the top. Owning a weapon is burden. The owners need to step up and face it.
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Old 12-21-2012, 08:23 AM
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So how about this. Skip the gun safe.

I'll make my proposal really simple. You are responsible for your guns. If your gun is used in the commission of a crime you will get the same sentence as the person who used your gun. It will be your job to figure out how to make sure that does not happen.
This would be good, but conditional. If the owner had his/her guns locked up in a safe they decided to get on their own, and it was broken into while they were out of town...would you still hold them responsible??
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So how about this. Skip the gun safe.

I'll make my proposal really simple. You are responsible for your guns. If your gun is used in the commission of a crime you will get the same sentence as the person who used your gun. It will be your job to figure out how to make sure that does not happen.
that will never stand Supreme Court scrutiny.
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So how about this. Skip the gun safe.

I'll make my proposal really simple. You are responsible for your guns. If your gun is used in the commission of a crime you will get the same sentence as the person who used your gun. It will be your job to figure out how to make sure that does not happen.
That's the same thing the simplistic, idealistic child on the corner said. There was a judge standing next her who said, "That's so cute, but it'll never happen".

I agree with you that there should be accountability in all aspects of life. Butterfly Effect.
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So how about this. Skip the gun safe.

I'll make my proposal really simple. You are responsible for your guns. If your gun is used in the commission of a crime you will get the same sentence as the person who used your gun. It will be your job to figure out how to make sure that does not happen.
Actually not bad. And it has strong historical precedence. The Code of Hammurabi is recognized as the first Building Code. It specified that if you built a house for someone, and it fell, injuring or killing someone, you got the same as your punishment....killed the Owner--you die; killed his first-born son--your first-born son dies and so on. ( It might have even covered wives and slaves--but I don't know)
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