This is a very interesting and revealing thread. There are some very mature, decent and compassionate people posting here and some others... not so much.

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yep.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

A-men.

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2 Samuel 12:13: "David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.” And Nathan said to David, “The Lord also has put away your sin; you shall not die."

Thanks for the backhanded slight, Larry.

Sorry to be general in my criticsim. As one of my teachers in school used to say.. "if the shoe fits, wear it."

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all the posts are mature.

I happen to agree with suganami that jplinville is just sharing with the forum, but all the posters who point out we are only seeing one side of this very personal fight are entirely correct.
Clearly posting this personal stuff does him some good, however were I in the same position, I don't think I would be making it public, but everyone is different.
We have different people responding to this thread based on whether or not they would air their dirty laundry, and others pointing out that this is a one sided tale told to generally strangers, but I don't see much disrespect towards jplinville or what sounds like a pretty annoying situation either way.

Im not sure how all that works out to be "immature" to you, but your value system of compounded lies, hypocrisy, and sickening sycophantism would confuse anyone.

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Do you care to point out ANY lie that I have ever made? I have made this challenge before, to whom I don't remember. Maybe it was you. The challenge has been unmet.

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only every time you post an unsubstantiated and completely untrue political or social rant and call it fact. Id call that perpetuating a lie if the data is completely untrue, wouldn't you?

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Do you expect your friends to take an objective and dispassionate view of situations in your life? I like friends to support me in the hours of crisis. After the crisis, my friends can help me see if I over-reacted, but my friends' purpose is to support me.
There is a time for everything in its season, under the sun. A time to be born, and a time to die, a time to gather stones, and a time to cast away stones. A time to support a friend, and a time to help a friend see the whole picture.
With some exceptions--we are all friends here.

some of this material from Solomon, last king of the united monarchy of Israel---I don't want to be accused of plagiarizing Solomon.

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Okay, I'm still waiting. Prove one of them is untrue. Since it doesn't agree with your own opinion that makes it untrue?

You know? If you and Paul are so appalled at JP's honesty and openness, this forum has a feature called ignore. You guys should try it. If I'm lucky, you'll put me on ignore also.

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Skid Row Joe seems equally appalled. Do you have any advice for him?

denial isn't just a river in egypt. (thank you for giving me an opportunity to say that) I guess if one makes a habit of lying to themselves, then its no big jump to the rest of your smoke and mirrors routine.

I don't think anyone is appalled by someones honesty or openness, but id say for myself, and maybe other people have the same reaction, when a stranger tells me how great they are and how bad someone else is, I usually reserve judgement since i am a third party, especially if I don't know any of the parties personally.
A man gets divorced from a woman, thats a boatload of personal drama and 9 times out of 10, there is no such thing as true objectivity from either party. Is JPs ex a total zero? Possibly, he says so, the court should be able to ferret that out easy and it sounds like they are on his side so hes in the right of it, but am I in a position to tell him how wonderful he is based on knowing neither of the parties? no.
On the flip side, some of us are ready to jump in and administer an old fashioned if anyone says anything positive about their own parenting.

post #28, from the forum sycophant

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That is not so.

I don't see the harm in simply saying we don't know both sides of the story--its a fact. I don't have much reason to doubt him, but it still does not take away the fact that there could be a whole different perspective on the issue. As far as JP's side, it certainly sounds like he's been dealt quite the hand and I wish him the best of luck with it. Hopefully its only a matter of time (and sooner rather than later) before there is a reasonable conclusion to the mess.

Criticizing someone for being upfront about this while simultaneously praising the other party for being so upfront seems um...hypocritical. FWIW I prefer not to have things sugarcoated either, I would rather someone be blunt and honest -- "just the facts, ma'am"

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Current stable:
- 2004 Mazda RALLYWANKEL
- 2007 Saturn sky redline
- 2004 Explorer...under surgery.

Past: 135i, GTI, 300E, 300SD, 300SD, Stealth