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t walgamuth · #16 01-10-2014, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by benhogan

is that the car that gets them wet?

If there's a puddle I can drive through...

(Oh you mean inside the car?)

benhogan · #17 01-10-2014, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim B.

If all I wanted was torque, probably a big pickup truck with a huge diesel engine would be a better choice, like a Dodge Cummins, Ford Powerstroke or a Chevy Duramax.

I imagine the S2000 being just an expensive Miata under normal rpm's. Heck, I guess enough people bought the merchandising so what the heck do I know.

t walgamuth · #18 01-10-2014, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by benhogan

I imagine the S2000 being just an expensive Miata under normal rpm's. Heck, I guess enough people bought the merchandising so what the heck do I know.

I have driven an s2000. its like a Miata til it hits the Miata redline 6500, then it accelerates like a rocket to its redline. the body design is spot on anjd the fit and finish first class. nice, nice car!

barry12345 · #19 01-10-2014, 11:29 PM

Nothing like the dealership trying to eliminate liability. If they had managed to get a charge of theft or whatever against the employee. I suspect they would have claimed no liability.

spdrun · #20 01-10-2014, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by barry12345

Nothing like the dealership trying to eliminate liability. If they had managed to get a charge of theft or whatever against the employee. I suspect they would have claimed no liability.

I'm surprised that the employee(s) can't be prosecuted for unlawful conversion of property.

t walgamuth · #21 01-11-2014, 03:47 AM

they can file a civil action. they will end up buying the guy a new car I bet. who'd want a used one after this? ...and rightfully so.

elchivito · #22 01-11-2014, 09:38 AM

I'm confused. What difference does it make what kind of car is involved?
Dealership AND the douchebag employee need to pay large.

SwampYankee · #23 01-11-2014, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by elchivito

I'm confused. What difference does it make what kind of car is involved?
Dealership AND the douchebag employee need to pay large.

Yup!

Jim B. · #24 01-11-2014, 11:23 AM

If I were the guy I would take it to Chevrolet corporate HQ in the form of a letter.

If it's well written and complete --- and if it gets read by the RIGHT higher-up, Not only WILL it get read, but it will get acted on. These complaints *DO* get read. But it has to be by the right people. Finding the routes and structures and then using them, is very important.

The company has a PR department, and there would be a corporate "fixer" designated to fix and to clean up the mess.

It could go down like this:

They would contact the buyer. They would tell him to spec out and design his new 2014 Camaro exactly as he wants it equipped, what color and options.

Then they would offer to fly him out to the factory first class or on a corporate jet, to the factory, put him up in a good hotel, and have him come to the factory and let him watch his NEW CAR be assembled.

And then, give him the choice of either driving it home himself with the pre-delivery inspection being done at the factory, OR shipped to a different Chevy dealer (that he would trust) for the PDI.

The company then would cancel the remaining loan balance on his loan, on the existing totaled out car, and pay it off themselves.

And GIVE him his new 2014 Camaro for free.

As for the offending dealer, GM could sanction them by withholding inventory of the best cars, OR however many units they want, or EVEN terminating the franchise, and let the people that work there go away and look for other jobs, or start up a new business.

Which would be selling USED cars somewhere. *IF* they could, after this...

All of that would be cheaper than a long lawsuit, EVEN though the Chevrolet and GM companies have batteries of trial lawyers on retainer.

And avoid the horrible negative publicity.

Which could conceivably cost millions of dollars in lost profits.

An overly optimistic scenario for sure.

Might not happen at all. Chevrolet might stonewall too. Who knows?

BUT:

It could happen as portrayed above, because for the Chevrolet company and GM, in the end it is all about making MONEY and SELLING more CARS.

And any of their franchised dealers, engaged for that purpose, if they become a drag on Chevrolet's profits, you can be sure the dealership that is dragging the bottom line downward is in DIRE peril of surviving.

We'll see how this plays out.

Jim B. · #25 01-11-2014, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by elchivito

I'm confused. What difference does it make what kind of car is involved?
Dealership AND the douchebag employee need to pay large.

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Originally Posted by SwampYankee

Yup!

It wouldn't be very hard to fill a civil trial jury box with jurors for a civil jury trial that feels like you guys, even if the Corporate lawyers for the defense bounced as many of you as they could and used up all their peremptory challenges and tried to knock off as many other like minded jurors off the panel by challenging them for "cause" (bias).

Likely they know it at Corporate legal, too.

Settling the mess at pretrial, or even before the lawsuit gets filed, would be a LOT better idea.

That said, automakers aren't known for giving away the store either.

We'll see.

.....though I personally suspect that there may be some dark clouds beginning to form over the offending dealership.

If so, its future prospects may likely soon be taking a turn for the worse...

panZZer · #26 01-11-2014, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kerry

Back in 69 I was working at a Chevy dealership which got one of the first 427 Camaros. That thing probably went thru 2 sets of tires before it ever left the lot in a buyer's hands. Everyone and their brother in the dealership wanted to drive it and see what it could do. Every time someone got in it there was a cloud of rubber smoke as it left the lot.

I think what you mean Kerry is one of the first factory done jobs, the COPO cars--which some of the dealers just started outfitting with their packages. There was an especially gaudy one that was special ordered by the son of the governor of chi-wawa Mexeco ,traffic light green with white stripes , side pipes , vette- L88 style hood. and of course some magnesium 5 spokes.

ruchase · #27 01-11-2014, 03:02 PM

At least it wasn't a 'real' camaro...and just a replaceable appliance.

The dealer is short-sighted; their reputation is on the line and they're arguing about the value of a used car. At the very least, they should give him a brand new shiny Camaro; and just for good measure throw in a free maintenance plan.

E150GT · #28 01-12-2014, 10:22 PM

camaros are lame.

Jim B. · #29 01-12-2014, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by panZZer

I think what you mean Kerry is one of the first factory done jobs, the COPO cars--which some of the dealers just started outfitting with their packages. There was an especially gaudy one that was special ordered by the son of the governor of chi-wawa Mexeco ,traffic light green with white stripes , side pipes , vette- L88 style hood. and of course some magnesium 5 spokes.

A 1969 COPO (Central Office Production Order) 427 Camaro is arguably the holy grail of ALL Camaro coupes. The 1969-only dealer-prepared Camaros by Nickey (Chicago area) and Yenko (NJ area) models are also near the very top of the heap.

That means fakes, and "clones" abound -- and truly, those are a trap for the unwary buyer.

Today's new Camaro coupes are styled as a retro tribute to the 1969 ones.
Nothing pleases more than a mint, unrestored original.