Accomplishments so far are nothing? THAT is an accomplishment. Every day that goes by with no new laws passed by the clowns in DC is a good day.

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What does this mean? They going to make the churches have to start paying taxes?

Brat

I kinda feel the same way that it is going to get to the point where we end up with someone like Hitler.

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Amen to that.

If you check your math you will see it is 20 to one.

I thought Cantor spent the big money.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Yet another datum demonstrating that money doesn't buy elections.

Correct! Having the press in your pocket is what does that.

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Churches should pay taxes on profit, but Churches should not be making profit.

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Correct...Churches should be using the money they collect to pay bills, and the rest for missionary or charity work. It's part of being able to file as a non-profit organization.

Sadly, Mega Churches seem to have so much money that they smother their leaders with lavish salaries and gifts. My grandfather was a circuit preacher in Ohio and Kentucky. He paid his own transportation, and normally slept at the head deacon's house, and dined with them as well. He'd collect his meager stipend, usually $25 or $35 and use it to drive back home on Sunday night so he could be at his normal job on Monday morning. Money was never the drive for him.

My dad started a mission at a local retirement community...a high-rise building for the elderly and physically disabled. He would preach on Sundays, and hold Bible studies on Wednesday after he got off of work. We never collected tithes, and if they were offered, they were used to pay for coffee, bagels or donuts for the everyone the following Sunday morning. There was never a time that he collected money for his sermons.

Religion has suffered from those that view the pulpit as a place to get rich.

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I know several Ministers and Priests that do the same thing with the high-rise building approach you mentioned. Most retirement homes or group homes have a common room for meetings and parties. They make great settings for small church services as well.

The folks I know are not retired. It is just a part of the area ministry that the Vestry has approved of them taking part in.

Refreshments are provided by those in attendance, just like any other gathering, and the coffee hour is considered an important part of the meeting since it is informal and allows the people there to discover and help to deal with matters in their own community, which to them is the building they live in.

All in all a very good use of church funds.

And I agree with the previous posters that if a church is to remain a non-profit it should be a non-profit. People give to support a ministry, not a group of stockholders.

Call me a radical, but I agree.

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Maybe you need one, JR.

Pretty good insult. It reminds me of a guy named Eric Cantor that was pretty good at tossing around insults.

Say, whatever became of 'ol Eric. I haven't seen him around lately.

And speaking of Eric Cantor......

A story is out today about how he always traveled with three bodyguards. And how no one could get near him.

I was sitting in a Denny's at the corner of 19th Street and I-30 in Grand Prairie, Texas, one day when a fellow walked in and ordered a soft drink. He was all alone and sat right across from me.

It was Rep. Martin Frost who had been in the area meeting with the voters about a large defense plant that had gone bust and left its' retirees with no pension plan. The plan was there until it was not, and Frost was trying to do something about the problem of where did all the money go.

But the bottom line is that he had no bodyguards, was driving his own car, and was ready to speak to anyone who might just wander up and sit down.

It is now looking like the main problem Cantor had was he went from being a Rep to his district to a DC insider and, as every good Conservative knows, there is nothing worse than being a DC insider.

So Cantor became something besides what the people voted into office, so they voted him out. It is weird to think it could be just that simple, but it looks like it is just that simple.

Some people are calling for a revolution. If you ask Cantor I bet he would tell you we just had one.

So, when did the clowns in DC become the clowns in DC? At what point did we veer away from the spirit of the Constitution relative to the conduct of government?