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P.C. · #46 06-11-2014, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dudesky

Tea party did not support Brat.

Success has a thousand fathers...

davidmash · #47 06-11-2014, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

Reagan demonstrated that the Conservative message is a winner with the American people. But the Repubs never got that message. Seems like modern Repub leadership listens to the inside the beltway advisors rather than their historic base.

What is that message?

P.C. · #48 06-11-2014, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Air&Road

Yes, having representatives from the rank and file rather than from the existing establishment is exactly what we need...., on BOTH sides of the aisle. The DC insiders are killin' us.

How did those DC insiders ever get inside in the first place? Try to remember that today's rebel often becomes tomorrow's tenured and intransigent deadwood. More term limits anyone?

Idle · #49 06-11-2014, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

Reagan demonstrated that the Conservative message is a winner with the American people. But the Repubs never got that message. Seems like modern Repub leadership listens to the inside the beltway advisors rather than their historic base.

I remember when Reagan ran and I voted for him. He was talking about taking the country in a new direction and cleaning up the mess that Nixon and Ford left behind. Carter was elected after Ford, of course, but all Carter did was run things and try to deal with inflation. Two big jobs but nothing to really go down in the history books about.

Reagan had been on the airwaves for a few years with radio bits, sort of like Paul Harvey, that pointed out areas that needed help and offered sound suggestions. Therefore a lot of folks knew where he stood and what he stood for but Reagan understood, very likely from having worked in Hollywood for so long, that the US is made up of a lot more than just Conservatives and he was trying to be a President for everyone in at least someway.

So Reagan was the new broom that was going to sweep clean. Real Conservatives considered him just one step above Satan himself because they wanted someone who was totally going to overthrow the country and install their form of government. The problem was that varied depending on which Conservative you asked. They were still upset that Goldwater had not won when he ran.

Reagan did a lot of good for the US and even the world, but he broke so many laws he had to be pardoned on H. W. Bush's first day in office.

I was quite involved in the Conservative movement during that time, so feel free to trot out the smoke screen and discredit me. You might fool others, but I was there, saw it first hand, and knew some of the key players. I finally got to where I could no longer stand to deal with those people no matter how interesting, in a whacked out sort of way, they were.

Dudesky · #50 06-11-2014, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Idle

I remember when Reagan ran and I voted for him. He was talking about taking the country in a new direction and cleaning up the mess that Nixon and Ford left behind. Carter was elected after Ford, of course, but all Carter did was run things and try to deal with inflation. Two big jobs but nothing to really go down in the history books about.

Reagan had been on the airwaves for a few years with radio bits, sort of like Paul Harvey, that pointed out areas that needed help and offered sound suggestions. Therefore a lot of folks knew where he stood and what he stood for but Reagan understood, very likely from having worked in Hollywood for so long, that the US is made up of a lot more than just Conservatives and he was trying to be a President for everyone in at least someway.

So Reagan was the new broom that was going to sweep clean. Real Conservatives considered him just one step above Satan himself because they wanted someone who was totally going to overthrow the country and install their form of government. The problem was that varied depending on which Conservative you asked. They were still upset that Goldwater had not won when he ran.

Reagan did a lot of good for the US and even the world, but he broke so many laws he had to be pardoned on H. W. Bush's first day in office.

I was quite involved in the Conservative movement during that time, so feel free to trot out the smoke screen and discredit me. You might fool others, but I was there, saw it first hand, and knew some of the key players. I finally got to where I could no longer stand to deal with those people no matter how interesting, in a whacked out sort of way, they were.

Got a source on Reagan's pardon?

MS Fowler · #51 06-11-2014, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Idle

I remember when Reagan ran and I voted for him. He was talking about taking the country in a new direction and cleaning up the mess that Nixon and Ford left behind. Carter was elected after Ford, of course, but all Carter did was run things and try to deal with inflation. Two big jobs but nothing to really go down in the history books about.

Reagan had been on the airwaves for a few years with radio bits, sort of like Paul Harvey, that pointed out areas that needed help and offered sound suggestions. Therefore a lot of folks knew where he stood and what he stood for but Reagan understood, very likely from having worked in Hollywood for so long, that the US is made up of a lot more than just Conservatives and he was trying to be a President for everyone in at least someway.

So Reagan was the new broom that was going to sweep clean. Real Conservatives considered him just one step above Satan himself because they wanted someone who was totally going to overthrow the country and install their form of government. The problem was that varied depending on which Conservative you asked. They were still upset that Goldwater had not won when he ran.

Reagan did a lot of good for the US and even the world, but he broke so many laws he had to be pardoned on H. W. Bush's first day in office.

I was quite involved in the Conservative movement during that time, so feel free to trot out the smoke screen and discredit me. You might fool others, but I was there, saw it first hand, and knew some of the key players. I finally got to where I could no longer stand to deal with those people no matter how interesting, in a whacked out sort of way, they were.

Reagan understood that politics is all about the "doable".

kerry · #52 06-11-2014, 04:21 PM

It was his henchmen who were pardoned.

jplinville · #53 06-11-2014, 04:41 PM

You may have "been" there, but your memory is faulty...Reagan never received a pardon from Bush. Reagan never needed a pardon...

Idle · #54 06-11-2014, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dudesky

Got a source on Reagan's pardon?

Do I look like your intern?

Idle · #55 06-11-2014, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kerry

It was his henchmen who were pardoned.

Thank you for the correction.

It is interesting to see that the Conservatives here don't cast doubt on the fact that laws were broken, nor care to point out that pardons were handed out.

Idle · #56 06-11-2014, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jplinville

You may have "been" there, but your memory is faulty...Reagan never received a pardon from Bush. Reagan never needed a pardon...

I quit hanging out with those freaks during the mid 80's. They were getting more and more delusional and beginning to wonder whatever became of the Conservative Utopia Reagan had promised.

They also could not understand his obsession with ending nuclear war.

MTI · #57 06-11-2014, 06:23 PM

Bush Pardons 6 in Iran Affair, Aborting a Weinberger Trial; Prosecutor Assails 'Cover-Up'

Botnst · #58 06-11-2014, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Idle

Thank you for the correction.

It is interesting to see that the Conservatives here don't cast doubt on the fact that laws were broken, nor care to point out that pardons were handed out.

Some people just can't help themselves wanting to stick with facts rather than go with somebody's fantasy. I don't understand it, either.

P.C. · #59 06-11-2014, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dudesky

Created the great recession when Carter penned the community reinvestment Act.....toss in a couple idiots for prez betwen then and now and 'viola'.

So we sit here today up to our ears in merde with a clown who hasn't done anything to fix all the things he blames Bush for.......LOL

Funny I thought the party of 'no' runs the Senate......

Boner is history.....

What about Viola?

elchivito · #60 06-11-2014, 07:42 PM

Wait till Brat's loony "Christian capitalism" starts coming out. This is going to be fun to watch.