Agreed. They are fun, not useful anymore. They are certainly not as fast as a auto when they are changing gears at speeds measured in milliseconds. A Ferrari 430 can do it in 50ms, M3 in 80ms, a Mercees SLS in 100ms.

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It’s,very simple how I knew your implication. Pas patterns.

Have a wonderful day!

I’m very pleased that the guys on whatever forum you’re talking about have the cars they like to drive. I am a different person and enjoy driving something different than that. Different strokes for different folks.

I will google that one and see what it is about. I came close to buying an Esprit several times, but just never quite got to the trigger pulling part.

Thanks for the recommendation.

I agree with the notion of manuals in slower cars, that makes sense. You're getting everything out of the engine that would be restricted by an automatic. With these modern supercars it's the opposite, a manual restricts the capability of these engines.

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Check out this video about the Evora on the track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iZQsjlWbyM

And one from Harry's Garage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaYGanifXsk&t=20s

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The corvette is approaching cheap supercar status, and paddle shifts are more efficient.

Frankly im surprised the option wasnt offered. Last run of the prior model 20% were stick, which is a huge percentage compared to industry wide averages. A big enough percentage that it seems like it would be worth catering to.

Oh well.

Yes i agree its more fun. I have a 2012 boring DD i searched long and hard for an example of the 2% of them that came in 5 speed. I found 3 in the country during that search that were currently for sale. I have not regretted that effort.

Look at it this way larry. The future is electric, or electric hybrid, where traditional transmissions even automatic, have no place. The future of driver control is self drive.

By the time manual gearbox vehicles truly dry up on the used market for purchase, most of us that love them will be long dead. Enjoy it now, our decendents will find the idea that you couldnt merge on the highway and set auto drive so you could nap completely bonkers

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I don’t argue even a a little bit that the auto will be faster using modern technology. It wouldn’t matter to me. I just enjoy driving a manual. I am sure I would enjoy a trip around the track in an auto mixer super car, but I would enjoy it twice as much with a stick. I won’t be trying to outrun anyone, I will just be driving for my own enjoyment.

Yeah JB, I am indeed enjoying it now, but it sure does limit my selection when shopping for a car and it’s been that way for a long time. I had a five speed 300E that it took me years to find. A few years ago I bought a low mileage, garaged SLK320 with a five speed. It took me several years to find it. As a result of not settling for an automatic, all my vehicles are old except my wife’s car. At my age it probably won’t reach a critical mass situation before I am dead and gone. They’ll have a nice manual waiting for me in heaven after that.

At some point I will be unable to pass a flight medical. A that point I will cash in the planes and find a stick shift super car of some sort, meaning it most likely won’t be new.

When I drove that Ferrari, I asked if, and hoped it was, an MT. They said, no, these are easy to drive. I was a bit disappointed.

But when I got in and saw the paddles, I said, well, I will use the paddles. I was able to drive it just like an MT as far as selecting which gear to be in, and how much to hold it. The speed of shifting made up for the third pedal timing, and it had LEDs on the steering wheel to show you when to upshift. It was as engaging as driving an MT since the gears all held.

Some people accept progress; others want to be stuck in 1960. To each his own...

Good ol’ Paul! The never give up master at baiting.

Have a wonderful day Paul.

Sprun was notorious for railing against it as well. Said he plucked the GPS antenna off a car so that no one would follow him. Hated automatics with a passion. What ever.

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- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
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Larry, brace yourself... https://youtu.be/niAlyaTYi20

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