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Old 04-19-2016, 08:32 PM
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1990 300CE fuel draining into intake, what would cause this?

I took my car (1990 300CE) to get smog tested, and it failed. They said it was running rich, and gave me a list of parts to replace (all rubber hoses on the engine, injector seals, breather hoses etc). I did all that including an oil change, and when I started draining the oil, I had to quickly put another pan in place before the first one filled up. I got about three gallons of oil (and I assume gasoline) out of the sump. When pulling the throttle body to replace the gasket, I noticed a puddle of gas in the intake manifold below the throttle body. I can only assume gas is leaking into the intake system somehow when it is running, and after the engine is turned off. What would cause this to happen? I am not as familiar with gassers as much as I am with Diesels, so please take it easy on me LOL! Thanks in advance, Rich

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Old 04-19-2016, 11:13 PM
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Sounds like a plunger seal on the fuel distributor.
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Old 04-20-2016, 10:08 AM
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How easy is that to replace? Is that part available, or should I just get a used one at a wrecking yard?
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Old 04-20-2016, 02:31 PM
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The part is available but I don't know the # Its kinda a pita but diy if you are methodical.
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90 300TE 4-M
Turbo 103, T3/T04E 50 trim
T04B cover .60 AR
Stage 3 turbine .63 AR
A2W I/C, 40 LB/HR
MS2E, 60-2 Direct Coil Control
3" Exh, AEM W/B O2
Underdrive Alt. and P/S Pulleys,
Vented Rear Discs, .034 Booster.
3.07 diffs 1st Gear Start

90 300CE
104.980
Milled & ported head, 10.3:1 compression
197° intake cam w/20° advancer
Tuned CIS ECU
4° ignition advance
PCS TCM2000, built 722.6
600W networked suction fan
Sportline sway bars
V8 rear subframe, Quaife ATB 3.06 diff
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Old 04-20-2016, 09:59 PM
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The part is available but I don't know the # Its kinda a pita but diy if you are methodical.
Do you know that f there is a DIY somewhere? Youtube?
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Old 04-21-2016, 05:51 AM
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Rollguy what engine do you have in the car ?. Is it an M103 ? If 103 it can get in from fuel pressure regulator .But again it can do the same if fuel distributor seals have rotted out . How is it running ?
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Old 04-21-2016, 10:12 AM
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Rollguy what engine do you have in the car ?. Is it an M103 ? If 103 it can get in from fuel pressure regulator .But again it can do the same if fuel distributor seals have rotted out . How is it running ?
I think it is an m104. It is a 3.0 six cyl. It seems to run okay, other than a slight flat spot in the acceleration.
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Old 04-21-2016, 10:22 AM
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Do you know that if there is a DIY somewhere? Youtube?
Check these out.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/291538-rebuilding-cis-e-distributor.html

CIS fuel distributer cleanout w/pics - Pelican Parts Technical BBS

http://www.cis-jetronic.com/public_doc/07.3-0997-06.pdf
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Old 04-21-2016, 02:49 PM
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Rollguy this is the fuel regulator on your car .Remove the plastic tube and start the car .See if fuel comes out of the regulator.
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Old 04-21-2016, 08:29 PM
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Rollguy this is the fuel regulator on your car .Remove the plastic tube and start the car .See if fuel comes out of the regulator.
Sorry, but that looks nothing like my engine. I will try to get a photo soon.....Rich
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Old 04-22-2016, 04:30 AM
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Rollguy i am shooting blanks here, i need to know what engine you have ie m103 m104 or i can not help you .I research one engine to find you have another. Nothing in your profile to go by.
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Old 04-22-2016, 09:07 AM
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You can probably check to see if the control piston is leaking with a dental mirror just after shutting the engine off.
If leaking, the part number of the control piston seal ring is A 011 997 71 48. You will also need a A 004 997 06 48 seal between the fuel distributor and housing.
The procedure is covered in the FSM under 7.3-1660.
It is critical to get the screw plug set to the same depth as before.
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Old 04-22-2016, 10:43 AM
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Rollguy i am shooting blanks here, i need to know what engine you have ie m103 m104 or i can not help you .I research one engine to find you have another. Nothing in your profile to go by.
All the part #s that I have been getting (Pelican Parts) have been 104 #s, so I assume it is a 104.
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Old 04-22-2016, 12:00 PM
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You have a M104.980.
It's an early 104 with KE-Jetronic fuel injection.

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