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Hmmm, ok, how MUCH extra energy is required to convert the water into it's component gasses? is it possible that a large solar panel could be used in the daytime to aid the alternator in creating additional watts for the electrolysis process? then the additional energy could come from the sun instead of the fuel/HP of the engine...
probably not nearly enough power from a solar panel, but just a thought...
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The energy required to separate the H2 is exactly the same as the maximum energy that can be recovered by recombining the H2 into water during the combustion process, this is not due to the inefficiency of the engine; it is a fundamental limitation of the physics. I am not saying that the use of H2 to somehow change the combustion characteristics of the internal combustion fuel is impossible. Someone might be able to design an engine to run more efficiently on a modified fuel that uses H2 as a component, just as you can design a more efficient engine to run on higher octane gasoline (at the expense of some higher emissions). However, that is not a "bolt-on" modification; it is an alternate engine design (i.e., higher compression, different timing, modified fuel injection, etc.) using a fuel with different components/additives (and probably worth some serious research). In that case, it would probably not make sense to use the engine power to produce the fuel "onboard" the car anyway. Then, we are just talking about the cost/benefit of reformulated fuel for use with a modified engine design (not unlike flex-fuel engines that are designed to run on E85). |
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I bought one device that would save me 25% on my mileage, and liked it so much, I bought another, slightly different one that would save me 40%.
WOW, with this working so well, I found one more for 15% and the last one was good for 25%..... EVERYTHING went great til I drove 10 miles down the road and the tank overflowed.......
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Nothing you said is against anything I said. I agree with you on most of your ideas... I can use hydrogen to supplement the fuel in my vehicle and it will run better. I can also use propane to supplement the fuel and it will run better. ----- The concept is the same. The outcome is the same. The two supplemental fuels are different. One is hydrogen. One is propane. ----- Making hydrogen costs a lot more than propane. There is no way to make hydrogen that is cheaper than propane... Not with a windmill powering a battery charger. Or forcing water thru tiny cracks at high pressure. Or using the alternator of a car. ----- The problem is not whether it works or not. The problem is the cost. ..... There is simply no way that we know of, that we can produce any form of energy that is more efficient than the process it took to make it. ..... It takes more energy in gasoline to run the cars motor to turn the alternator to make the current that it takes to produce hydrogen via electrolysis, than the energy you will get out of burning the hydrogen you just produced. If this were not true, every cycle of the engine would produce more and more energy. As time passed the engine would be producing enormous amounts of excess energy. We would eventually be able to power everything in the world with the one engine. No one has figured out how to do that yet ! Or we would be doing it ! -------
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when I was a kid. Cutting off my gas supply did not stop me from riding the go cart. Wow, I was an evil genius as a kid ! .
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See if he will sign up for an account here and talk to us directly. I for one would really like to hear from him. Tell him there are many people here interested in his ideas. and his system. and the username water4gas is still open ! RichC .
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Oil refineries do not produce oil... The sun produces oil... Takes a long time ... The sun produces all of the fuels on this planet. we just distill or filter or centrifuge what she gives us. RichC .
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Is that a tornado?
Where do you get those?
Did you have similar diving conditions to test it? Nick |
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Forget the Tornado, a throttle body spacer will work much better.
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thats almost as bad as waste veggie oilers putting heaters on their injector lines
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How about this catalytic converter? He claims he can get a 318ci gas V8 to average 100-200mpg.
http://www.preignitioncc.com/information/ |
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What if you combine multiple items?
Do you have a picture of the throttle body spacer?
What size magnet do you put on the fuel line? Do you put it before the first filter? Can you just wire tie it on? |
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I bet with the PICC catalytic converter, a fuel line magnet, a TB spacer, a tornado, a hydrogen generator, propane injection a gallon of cetane booster and 2% biodiesel you could increase your engine's efficiency by at least 250%. You could easily get 157mpg+.
I'll sell you the instructions for a mere $1,500. |
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