I'll bet it won't go down as fast as it goes up.

Here in Lawrence, KS, diesel at my local Phillips 66 went from $2.49 yesterday to $2.79 today. I don't want to know what its gonna be tomorrow. 87 octane is up from $2.59 to $2.99 though at the BP, so I guess I have some relief.

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73 450SL AMG "Millennium Falcon"
88 Volvo 740GLE B230F/M47
84 300SD Turbo (Sold, looking for new one)
86 300E (FOR SALE)
78 450SL (totalled by girl on drugs in SUV)
87 Volvo 740GLE wagon (totalled by Ford Expedition)

I agree, the Wicycle is unsafe on today's American roads. But maybe not in the future if society has to adjust universally to small-engined ambulation.

Good riddens to the SUV and to the "I've got mine" attitude of those driving them! We are all in this together and sooner or later we will learn it.

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1967 230SL, manual
1959 180D, manual

i filled up at the us52 family express for 2.53. the regular was about 2.70. i had first driven to the fam ex on sr38 here in laf. the price there was 2.69 for the diesel. hard to figure, same brand one mile apart. .14 diff.

i went back later and filled up the 82 240 after lovely daughter #4 ran it out because the warning lite didnt flash. the guage works though. oh well.
bet she doesnt wait for the warning lite next time!

tom w

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

What a brilliant idea. Of course nothing else will be impacted if you get your wish. Of course, no other prices will go up. Only the guzzlers will disappear. Gas prices go up, what do you think will happen to the economy? If I cancel that vacation, and stay home because of the prices of gas, guess who else is affected? Multiply that effect by millions and the tourist industry goes down. Are you that immune to the economy? Yes, you are running your WVO. Good for you. You live off the land too? If you lose your job because of downsizing when the economy happens, I'll buy you a beer so you can toast the prices going higher and you get what you wanted. When they dropped the atomic bomb in Japan, only the soldiers died, right? I suppose, stupid is as stupid wishes.

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01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow

Here in Miami on the 11pm news(3 hrs ago) Premium went to $3.19, Reg to $2.99, not sure on Diesel. People will be changing their driving habits. Some of these idiots are still are pedaling to the Metal at light changes.and slam on the brakes at the next light. These folks will soon be singing a different tune! These high prices are the ONLY thing that will shock some of these dummies into reality.Some never learn! Consumers should pressure their legislators for change, higher CAFE standards, alternative fuel exploration. When prices get high enough this will happen and not until then!! We should have learned from what happened in the 70s but didn't!

Good news, just bought me a hay eating mule. He eats the grass in the yard..now no mowing. I use his crap to fertilize my tomato plants...I'm trying to teach him to talk..like MR Ed and if success comes..I'll be rich..if not I'll shoot his ass as soon as this fuel crunch is over and sell his dead ass to the Alpo company....

Sooo, what ya gonna do about it? Pissing and moaning doesn't seem to work. Going to boycott the fuel stations? Fat chance unless you are willing to make a drastic change in your life style. Participate in a demonstration? That does squat. People will fork over $5 a gallon while screaming that it's killing them, but they will still fork it over. We are all getting forked. By whom we are getting forked is of secondary importance. The list is probably long.

We have no voice in OPEC's decisions no matter how much "aid" we give out. Don't look now but we have no real effective voice in our government's decisions either.

But.... those of us who have chosen to drive these old reliable smudgepots have a choice. WVO, SVO, or best of all, biodiesel. I believe that one of our most dedicated members here has a sticky posted on the subject. Read it. Consider it. Do it if you can. If you can't brew it yourself, take notice. Biodiesel is more expensive than petro diesel right now but the the times, they are a changing.

I'm no tree hugger despite my choice of residences. Hell, I still mix tetraethyl lead in my gasoline for my hot rod toys. And sometimes my diesel has that certain red tint to it. But every dollar I spend that doesn't end up in the oil cartel's pocket, pleases me no end. Fork em, I say.

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1984 300D
1985 300CD
1980 300SD
1993 SL500

There is a more effective way. BUY more fuel efficient vehicles. The companies are stupid. They only make what you tell them you want to buy. Don't buy it and they won't make it. Plain and simple. The problem is if there are more people who want to buy the less fuel efficient vehicles than those who want higher standards, the legislators won't go for it. However, the companies will sell what they can sell. So, if you give up your Benzes for hybrid cars like the Prius and the companies see it, they will change it if there is sufficient demand in the fuel efficient cars and a drop in demand for the less efficient. If there isn't, they won't. Plain and simple. What you want is the legislators to make changes that YOU, the minority, want. However, it seems the majority want something different and you are unhappy with that. Be it good or bad, it seems the majority have spoken.

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01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow

At this point it doesn't make sense for me (and many people for that matter) to buy a hybrid car. I own my E300D which gets 32mpg. I'd have to pay $20K++ to buy a hybrid that gets 50mpg. So for now I'll pay the price, but will perhaps ask the boss about telecommuting.

I have a 24 powerboat for sale that has a 454 big block. No calls so far, probably will not be able to give it away.

My wife has a Land Rover Discovery that takes premium gas and gets 15mpg. She's been driving her other car (VW cabrio) while the Disco sits in the driveway.

Hey Stupid;
The prices are going up whether you & I like it or not....& I'm not the one raising the prices , so go take your S##T out on someone who wants to listen to you! If the economy gots F'ed, then find someone to blame...Schmuck.

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'81 280SEL

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81 300SD -
93 300E w/ 3.2
85 300D-
79 300SD
82 300CD
83 300CD - CA
87 190E 5 spd
87 Porsche 924S

"..I'll take a simple "C" to "G" and feel brand new about it..."

...and to think; I'm a Packer fan...embarising..

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'87 924S
'81 280SEL

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81 300SD -
93 300E w/ 3.2
85 300D-
79 300SD
82 300CD
83 300CD - CA
87 190E 5 spd
87 Porsche 924S

"..I'll take a simple "C" to "G" and feel brand new about it..."

I'm glad I don't work at a gas station these days, I bet the clerks are taking a beating with all of the frustration over the rising prices.

Very well said. Yes I run oil in my SDL, but that doesn't help much when grocery prices double because the trucking company has to pass the buck for high fuel prices. Second, as petrol prices climb, biodiesel demand rises. Biodiesel producers, looking for cheap feedstocks, are turning more and more to waste oil. Pretty soon all of us running WVO will be in direct competition with biodiesel producers. WVO won't be free for the taking for long-I guarantee it. Austin, wasn't it you who started a thread bemoaning this fact a while back?

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You're right....I'm moving to Amsterdam and I'll be riding a bike or the Tram..(-:
Oh; I did no "bemoaning". I just forwarded an email from a collector, because it was interesting and humorous....
I don't think aklim should get so bent out of shape, because I would rather see S#itboxes off the road or just paynig their fare share for fuel....
Their demand is causing our supply to cost more! True! Or are you defending SUV and Hummmmers too??????

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'87 924S
'81 280SEL

Sold ->

81 300SD -
93 300E w/ 3.2
85 300D-
79 300SD
82 300CD
83 300CD - CA
87 190E 5 spd
87 Porsche 924S

"..I'll take a simple "C" to "G" and feel brand new about it..."