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Old 11-01-2015, 11:31 PM
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Thumbs up Starton For The WIN !

Recently I got sick of the 17 gallon fuel tank in my 1982 240D and went searching for a 21 gallon one , all the local self - service bone yards have a hard on against Diesels because they not only punch holes in them for drainage , they also deliberately bend the filler necks for no apparent reason .

Anyway , in time I found one in an '84 sedan that had been sitting near the Pacific Ocean sans filler cap , fuel sender or back window ~ this means it was a prime fungus breeding ground , I bought it and was too rushed to take the time to clean out the visible black mossy looking crud in the bottom of it , I simply drained it and then installed it after laboriously hand cleaning the packed with fungus in tank strainer , added a quart of Startron and two gallons of Diesel, started it up and put it right back in my daily driving .


Of course the clear plastic intake screen filled up quickly with dead fungus chunks , they look line tiny lumps of coal .

Every time I got down to 1/4 tank (I drive 800 miles every 7 days) I'd remove this clear screen and blow it out backwards , each fillup I added 8 ounces of Startron , it took a couple of tank to kill it all off , the car never once ran poorly .

This stuff WORKS ! .

Other fungus killers simply kill the fungus so it then clogs up your screens and filters repeatedly , Starton eats it and results in fine particles that can easily pass right through the fuel system and out the exhaust without clogging nor damaging anything .

BTW : I'm LOVING the new tank ! 547 miles this last fillup and it didn't run out .

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Old 11-02-2015, 04:58 PM
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The stuff living in your fuel is Bacteria. Not Algae, not fungus.
There is a fungus among us.

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Old 11-09-2015, 01:49 AM
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Question about those larger fuel tanks....

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Recently I got sick of the 17 gallon fuel tank in my 1982 240D and went searching for a 21 gallon one ,

Anyway , in time I found one in an '84 sedan that had been sitting near the Pacific Ocean sans filler cap , fuel sender or back window ~ this means it was a prime fungus breeding ground , I bought it and was too rushed to take the time to clean out the visible black mossy looking crud in the bottom of it , I simply drained it and then installed it after laboriously hand cleaning the packed with fungus in tank strainer , added a quart of Startron and two gallons of Diesel, started it up and put it right back in my daily driving.
Every time I got down to 1/4 tank (I drive 800 miles every 7 days) I'd remove this clear screen and blow it out backwards , each fillup I added 8 ounces of Startron , it took a couple of tank to kill it all off , the car never once ran poorly .

BTW : I'm LOVING the new tank ! 547 miles this last fillup and it didn't run out .
Were the larger fuel tanks ever fitted to the W123 coupes, or was it just the sedans?

I am now thinking of picking up some of that startron stuff after reading this thread, BTW. That i know of, I havent had issues with fungus/algae/tadpoles in my various diesels fuel tanks, but like you said, it cant hurt to use it as a preventative measure.
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Old 11-09-2015, 08:05 AM
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Post W-123 Fuel Tanks

Yes the larger 21 gallon fuel tank was fitted to all 300D's and the Taxi 240D's as well .

Be aware it's CRITICAL to flush out that Junk Yard tank before installing it ! I didn't and I'm paying for my perfidy , I still have cloudy fuel dammit .


Cleaning it is pretty simple when it's loose in your hands , use gasoline and some BB's or whatever floats your boat but make dang sure it's HOSPITAL CLEAN before installing it .

I looked at the gasser tank and apart from the strainer , I see no difference .

My fuel economy must be down a bit ~ the low fuel lamp came on last night @ 492 miles .
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Old 11-09-2015, 09:37 AM
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When using a JY tank... be SURE the vent line isn't clogged up before you install... you WILL collapse a tank in short order...
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Old 11-09-2015, 09:58 AM
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Old 11-09-2015, 11:26 AM
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Yes the larger 21 gallon fuel tank was fitted to all 300D's and the Taxi 240D's as well .
My question is, are these fuel tanks able to be installed on the coupes, or was it just the sedans?
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Old 11-09-2015, 11:27 AM
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There is a fungus among us.



In automotive forum etiquette, "bump" is usually a reference to inadvertently striking one's head against the underside of the hood whilst performing engine maintenance. For each strike to the back of the head, a member will post the word "bump" to the forum. If you see multiple "bumps" from the same forum member, this is generally indicative of a headache
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"BUMP" means to post a nothing post to move the thread back to the top of the first page. Nothing to do with hitting your head.
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Old 11-09-2015, 12:43 PM
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I think he was using a little sarcasm there...some folks abuse the bump...
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2008 ML320 CDI (Older son’s DD) fatal transmission failure, water soaked/fried rear SAM, numerous other issues, just too far gone to save (165k miles)
2008 E320 Bluetec (Younger son's DD) injector failed open and diluted oil with diesel, spun main bearings (240k miles)

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Old 11-10-2015, 10:32 PM
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When using a JY tank... be SURE the vent line isn't clogged up before you install... you WILL collapse a tank in short order...
Thanx for the warning ! .

As it turned out, I rushed the job and didn't check the vent pipe .

I've already run about 2,000 miles in it (maybe more , I drive 800 miles every 7 days and I toss the fuel receipts as soon as I figure my fuel economy) .

It's good to go but obviously still has some tiny amount of growing stuff in it , I add a 1/2 pint +/- of Startron to every fillup and I only fill it when it's been on 'E' for a while ~ I've been getting 520 or so miles out of each tankful and still have tea colored fuel in the clear intake screen .

It'll be clean soon .

To - day I ran it 521 miles and it took 20 gallons to fill it up , 26. MPG's , should have been better but this last tank I was manually shifting the slush box a fair bit to get it up to freeway speed a bit faster , that always lowers my fuel economy .

I already answered the fuel tank question ~ YES you can remove the Coup's original 21 gallon fuel tank and replace it with another or the smaller 17 gallon tank .

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