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Old 07-19-2007, 11:27 PM
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we have a large mill in our shop so I suppose I could set up a boring bar and thin the thing out a bit might give that a shot, as for the machine shop the only decent one around is an hour away and its cheaper this way were set up to do cylinder heads in shop and deck blocks I suppose (havent done one yet but its about the same as a head just taller) Ill let you know how it goes on the rest of them I figure I can remove, replace and deck the block on my own, just have to send it off to be bored to size

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Old 07-19-2007, 11:46 PM
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That's just how one machine shop said they will do it. I wanted to resleeve one of my 617 blocks and they quoted me between $350 and $400 to do it. I also have to supply them the sleeves.
After it's resleeved I'm sure they still have to rebore them to have the pistons fit as the pistons will probably not fit right with the sleeves installed as they are. So I could imagine there's an extra charge for the extra boring to fit the pistons.
Pressed in dry sleeves, in my experience, always need to be bored and honed to size.
This is where the diesels' economy of operation sorta turns around and bites.
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Old 07-20-2007, 12:11 AM
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Just another reason why they're so expensive to buy already rebuilt.
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Old 07-22-2007, 10:38 PM
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well I made another tool tonight out of 1/2 steel and got a liner out about a 1/4 inch so far without hurting it at all so there is hope to get one out and reuse it, I have a 3/4 inch fine thread bolt that runs down threw a piece of 2x2 1/4 wall tube, then the screw runs down the cylinder and into the pulling plate at the bottom that is made from an old GM front wheel drive hub machined down to the proper size with a step in it to line it up inside the cylinder. By putting different spacers under the 2x2 tube you can change how far the puller will pull
takes a person standing on the block to hold it down then a breaker bar with a 4 foot piece of pipe on the end of it to get the thing to move about 3 pulls and it will pop up about 1/32 to 1/16 so its slow but it works, the IR 1/2 impact we have that puts out about 500lb wont move it a 3/4 or 1 inch drive that put down something like 1000lb might move it but would probably break the bolt so I guess Ill do it by hand
Once I make sure it works well and isnt going to break anyone who needs it can barrow it or I can make a detailed diagram and you can make your own
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Old 07-22-2007, 10:42 PM
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There may be hope after all. I'm subscribing to this thread.
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Old 07-22-2007, 11:23 PM
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How about cooling the sleeve first either ice or maybe R134?
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Well got 1 out with no problem came out with no damage at all could press it back in if you wanted to, it wasnt easy to take out at all took lots of pulling on a ratchet and changing spacers once I got it out to a point where it hit on the puller but it came out so if anyone is interested I can post a picture and specs on how to make it or once I get the last 2 out your all more then welcome to barrow it
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I have no idea why someone would go through this much trouble to pull a sleeve for reuse when you can buy a new one for $32.

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I agree with you there I wouldnt reuse one either but some one said they wanted to, and I needed to remove them from my block so I figured if I could make something to get them out and not damge them then why not
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like to see a photo thanks

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Well got 1 out with no problem came out with no damage at all could press it back in if you wanted to, it wasnt easy to take out at all took lots of pulling on a ratchet and changing spacers once I got it out to a point where it hit on the puller but it came out so if anyone is interested I can post a picture and specs on how to make it or once I get the last 2 out your all more then welcome to barrow it
like to see a photo of your set up and maybe I could barrow it for a few days thanks Omar
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I'm the one who wants to try to reuse a sleeve. I have a block with a bad cylinder and I also have a bad block with good cylinders.
I agree the new sleeves are fairly inexpensive but you still have to bore the new sleeves to fit the pistons. When you do one, you should do all all of them. I have a quote of about $400 to do a resleeve with bore by a machine shop. That doesn't include the cost of the sleeves. Also there is no guarantee the old pistons will fit after the boring. Then you're looking at the cost of new pistons and that is expensive.
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There should be every guarantee the bore will fit the piston. I think you're being penny wise and dollar foolish by thinking that a removed and re-installed sleeve will be usable.
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Old 07-24-2007, 10:29 PM
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Dewhite2485 said he got a sleeve out undamaged and that sounds good to me. It'll be a good cylinder transplanted from a bad block. I'm sure I can ensure the sleeve will go back in the same orientation as it was in the old block. This way, I'll have a piston matched with the wear of the sleeve. It'll also salvage a doomed block that would otherwise end up going to a scrap yard.
Also there's no dollar foolishness here. I'll be saving a small fortune not going with a complete rebuild. This will be a good way to test out my theory. It's worth a try.
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Please let us know how it turns out.
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If I don't find another reasonably priced used engine first, I will.

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