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Old 06-17-2008, 12:44 PM
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What size micron of particles will safely flow through the injectors?
Baja nailed it. Going through the injectors is not the issue, its protecting the precision injection pump from damage.

It also has the bonus of being larger which means it will last longer. That can make the mod pay for itself since the filter is about the same price as the stock one.

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Old 06-17-2008, 01:32 PM
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What was done about the wire harness and bracket below the filter?
I do not recall any problem with the wiring harness below the filter. I made a drilled spacer plate to move the filter towards the rear a little more than an inch. I did this as there is a casting web below the stock filter. Moving the filter away allows room for the larger filter to drop down during a filter change.
DeliveryValve did not ask me to make a plate for him but I sent one anyway. I do not know if he will need it or not. The filter I used bsides being a lot fatter is also longer so I needed more room.
If the wires are in the way I think there is enough play in the to move them out of the way.
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Old 06-18-2008, 02:52 AM
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I would like to do this mod as well. You should sell a "conversion kit"
Okay. I have 3 kits available that include modified base, extension plate, metric hardware, new crush washers and M16x1.5 banjo bolt. For extra I can include a BF7591-D filter. Price is TBA as soon as I find a banjo bolt long enough (The one in the picture is about 1/2" too short to work).

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I really like the bleeder screw setup because I can use my Mityvac to draw the air out and fuel into the filter.
The bleeder screw is unnecessary. There is already a bleeder hole in the filter base that bleeds air from the filter to the return side. Its under the banjo bolt where the two return lines merge into the cigar hose. (see pictures) All you have to do is pump the primer and it will bleed itself, even if you don't fill the filter first.
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Old 06-18-2008, 09:05 AM
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Why are you all choking off the fuel supply with a 2 micron filter?

I would do it if the cetane rating in the U.S. was about 80 or something like that but 40 is the highest I've seen. I'm looking for a 20 micron filter to replace the 10 micron, which is overkill. I made a 150 micron filter once but it let too much fuel pass too quickly and killed the transmission when it couldn't handle the extra tork from all of the extra fuel, I think.

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Old 06-18-2008, 09:09 AM
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What? I don't think you know what your talking about. The flow rate of filters is rated in GPM or similar. Micron rating is the size of particle the filter will pass. Both of which have nothing to do with power unless of course the filter is much to small (too small flow rate).
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Old 06-18-2008, 09:30 AM
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Think about the flood waters in Iowa. Same thing on cars with too low micron rating.

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What? I don't think you know what your talking about. The flow rate of filters is rated in GPM or similar. Micron rating is the size of particle the filter will pass. Both of which have nothing to do with power unless of course the filter is much to small (too small flow rate).
Anyway, I'm not ASE certified. I'm just speaking from experience of having worked on and owned these Mercedes cars and had to get my money untied up no matter what. Also, I've found that if you follow Mercedes theories as announced, you will never get out of the woods.

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Old 06-18-2008, 11:04 AM
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Yeah, why run a filter at all?






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Okay. I have 3 kits available that include modified base, extension plate, metric hardware, new crush washers and M16x1.5 banjo bolt. For extra I can include a BF7591-D filter. Price is TBA as soon as I find a banjo bolt long enough (The one in the picture is about 1/2" too short to work).
I'll take one!
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Old 06-18-2008, 03:13 PM
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I'll take one!
I'll put your name on one.

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I made a 150 micron filter once but it let too much fuel pass too quickly and killed the transmission when it couldn't handle the extra torque from all of the extra fuel, I think.
Injected fuel quantity is not controlled by the fuel filter. The only thing installing a 150 micron filter in place of the stock 10 will do is destroy the injection system.

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I don't think you know what your talking about.
I'd have to agree.
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Old 06-18-2008, 04:07 PM
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I installed the filter today and basically the car operates the same. No other surprises happened. See pictures of the install.

Pic 1: I am using an O-Ring gasket to seal the banjo. My initial thought of using gas rated Teflon tape is flawed. There is possibility if parts of the tape breaks off, it could get into the IP… Bad news! The O - Ring gasket could be reused quite a few times.

Pic 2: ForcedInduction had a question of what to do with the GP wiring loom located underneath the fuel filter. To create more room to install a taller filter, I unhooked to factory zip tie to the loom and removed the bracket. The wiring loom just hangs lower now and is in no danger of hitting anything else.

Pic3: When I installed the filter head. : I kept the driver side bolt intact and then I clocked the filter head to a 1 o’clock position, so the taller filter can clear the power steering mount web casting

I then I created an extension bracket from a piece of scrap metal I got from the throttle linkage bracket that links up the cruise control. It is an angled bracket that matches the anodized finished of the rest of the motor.
Also, I used a heavy duty spacer so the A/C line bracket and new filter bracket can rest on it.


Pic 4: Here is a shot of the setup from the back view.
Notice the bracket and spacer setup.
Also note the hose setup. Since I have a GreaseCar kit installed in my car, I my lines arranged differently then the stock setup. I am almost positive that you don’t have to use new rubber hoses for the intake and out-take lines this mod. I would imagine you would just gingerly move them. But don’t take my word on it. Maybe someone else doing this mod will let us know.

Pic 5: Shot from the top. Notice how the filter head is clocked. And notice the bracket that I made that is mounted on the top. The bottom of the filter head mount has about less then 3/4 of it contacting the power steering bracket. I think this is good enough to make it stable along with the new bracket on top.
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Old 06-18-2008, 04:19 PM
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I made the bracket straight out 1" and over 1/4" (no twisting) to minimize the chance of a stock plastic fuel line breaking, but your bracket will work just as well for those that have new lines.
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Old 06-18-2008, 04:24 PM
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The bleeder screw is unnecessary. There is already a bleeder hole in the filter base that bleeds air from the filter to the return side. Its under the banjo bolt where the two return lines merge into the cigar hose. All you have to do is pump the primer and it will bleed itself, even if you don't fill the filter first.
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I made the bracket straight out 1" and over 1/4" (no twisting) to minimize the chance of a stock plastic fuel line breaking, but your bracket will work just as well for those that have new lines.
Excellent points about the bleeder and the plastic lines. I could imagine those 20 plus year old lines the breaking.
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The bleeder screw is unnecessary. There is already a bleeder hole in the filter base that bleeds air from the filter to the return side. Its under the banjo bolt where the two return lines merge into the cigar hose. (see pictures) All you have to do is pump the primer and it will bleed itself, even if you don't fill the filter first.[/quote]

On this forum I have read that during a filter change some members loosen one the fuel outlet Banjo fitting to bleed the air out to make using the hand primer pump faster and less work. For people who do things this way the I believe the air bleed screw would be desirable as it is less likely to leak after use than one of the Banjo connections. Also, with a larger filter it means more pumping to fill it.
For myself I do not loosen the fuel outlet Banjo bolt but just keep pumping until I hear air bleeding out of the IP. If I did have a convenient air bleed screw I would use it and not have to pump so much (my filter is even bigger so takes more pumping to fill it).
Also I prefer not to pre-fill the filter.
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Old 06-18-2008, 05:00 PM
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Here is one of the other ways I thought of to modify the filter housing that dose not use a Banjo bolt at all. You tap the top of the filter housing for a 1/2" pipe plug (use a newer style housing that uses the O-ring type Banjo bolt as it has a straight inside diameter). You make a threaded sleeve that will be JB weld epoxied into the threade bottom part of the housing. Epoxing the threaded sleeve inplace solves the problem of unfilterd fuel leaking by the threads.
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Old 06-18-2008, 05:52 PM
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1 will take 2

i will take number 2 and 3 if the price is right. but 1 for sure. i have a 240D and 300D that these would go in.

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Old 06-18-2008, 07:16 PM
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Put me in for a kit

This looks like a really cool mod. Looks like it will fit on my 85 TD. I
love the concept of the 2 mic filter and the "easy bleed" screw. If it
comes in at a "reasonable" cost I'll take a kit,thanks

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