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In the Cruise ship I worked we used Bunker fuel for the Diesels. This "jello" like fuel did need to be heated to flow and centerfuidged to get rid of contaminates (+filtered). The Gas turbine engines used a form of Jet fuel as well a biodiesel -and were very clean burning, but were less fuel effcient then the diesels.
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Tell ya' what! The day that the lazy SOB's that won't roll their A$$ out of bed in the morning to go to work and instead collect an "entitlement" check start paying back the money that they've been sucking off of the taxpayers of this country, will be the day that I pay the very few cents that I might have not paid in fuel tax by burning the few gallons of oil that I paid tax on when I bought it to pour in the crankcase. Had I taken that drained oil and poured it in the recycle tank where I now pour it, it would have ended up as cheap fuel for a Cruise Line. Come to think of it, in the days when I burned the oil that I drained out of the crankcase, there was no place locally that I knew of where I COULD take it to be "recycled." In that case would you preferred that I pour it on the ground? I was not going to pour it on the ground on my land. |
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A small amount of used oil is re-refined, has its additives replentished, and is then sold as recycled motor oil. But only a small portion because there isn't that much of a market for it. Most people (and fleets) use only NEW oil in their engines because by the time it goes through the entire process of being recycled to be "good as new" the cost savings for recycled oil isn't that significant. The vast majority of it is filtered, blended, and then sold as "on-spec" fuel for boilers and furnaces. Which BTW, don't burn the oil one bit cleaner than your engine will if the oil is mixed in low concentrations with diesel fuel. It burns cleanly in a diesel engine because at low concentrations it is well atomized. A diesel engine in good running condition burning the mix described in my earlier post doesn't even produce more visible smoke than it would on 100% #2 diesel. You want to see oil burning that ISN'T clean, check out any clapped-out old gasser with a couple of hundred thousand miles on it that is going through a quart every couple of hundred miles. That oil isn't atomized at all and as a result it doesn't burn completely and has really dirty exhaust with lots of smoke.
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If you're burning it in 20%, 30%, 50% concentrations you will see more smoke, no doubt about it. In those concentrations it is too thick to properly atomize and burn cleanly...
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well I heatered wmo mix to 185 degrees before injection.
This group made me think about little kids,and animals. I did not mind spreading cancer to tailgaters,and road ragers.
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What a CROCK! Every gasser out there spews WAY more harmful pollutants into the air than our diesels - even if we burn some WMO. Gasoline is roughly 13% Benzine, and you can't get much worse in terms of harmful, carcinogenic chemicals than that stuff. Heck, it is on the EPA's list of the 200 most acutely hazardous substances! And millions of gallons of it are burned - or rather partially burned - and spewed into the air every day! But I'M the one giving cancer to all the little children by burning 5% WMO mixed with my diesel. Yeah, riiiiight...
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I can tell that we agree on most everything POLITICALLY haha. Good Point.
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I couldn't agree more. When ANY of the pigs that suck up tax money out of laziness OR greed start paying back what they took from the honest taxpayers, I will pay back the few tax cents that MAYBE I saved burning a few gallons of drained oil in my tank. Whether it's a farmer sucking up agriculture subsidies, a banker sucking it up from greed, Barney Frank saying that everyone is entitled to a mortgage whether they can pay it back or not, or someone too lazy to get out of bed and go to work in the morning, they're all the same kind of greedy/lazy entitlement mentality. |
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Thanks VERY much for sharing your experience on the subject. There's nothing like facts in a discussion, although there are many who prefer not to muddle up a good debate with those pesky facts. |
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You're welcome Larry, and thanks for the compliment. I'm an engineer by trade, so facts, figures, and logic are the the only valid way to look at things, as far as I'm concerned. The emotionalism that the environmentalists seem want to introduce into these debates carries no weight as far as I'm concerned.
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Yes I agree. There are plenty of good used IP's at your local self serve auto wrecker.
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