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Old 12-04-2014, 01:37 PM
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Does anyone know if the turbo lines, though a bit fatter, can be fitted easily onto a non-turbo? Both vehicles have the GM style ac compressor.
The SD lines are different due to the difference in the SDs oil filter housing. When I did my 617->107 swap I used the SD oil filter housing to gain clearance to the steering gear and needed to use the SD hoses. You could swap in the SD oil filter housing and use your SD hoses; but you couldn't go the other way i.e. use a 123 filter in an SD. You should also grab the turbo line if you decided to go that route as it's different too, but it can be "adjusted" to fit without too much difficulty.



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Old 12-05-2014, 01:37 PM
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W126 oil cooler lines in W123

Thanks! I am sure this comparison will be of great help to others too.

I happen to have both the W126 and W123 oil filter housings, and now I see another difference between them that sinks my project (I think)

That is that the W126 housing doesn't have the female thread at the side plate bolted to the housing for the oil pressure gauge line -- there is a vacuum dashpot instead.
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Old 12-05-2014, 01:59 PM
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.... the W126 housing doesn't have the female thread at the side plate bolted to the housing for the oil pressure gauge line -- there is a vacuum dashpot instead.
That's not a vacuum dashpot, rather it's the sender for the electric oil pressure gauge.
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Dear All,

I thought I'd add this information for those who have struggled with oil cooler lines on a W123 300D.

If any of you can not remove the engine mount in order to give yourselves the necessary space to remove and replace the oil cooler pipe lines (I got stuck because I didn't have the correct size Allen wrench) here is an alternative way.

This might sound a bit mad but remove the radiator, the engine shock, and the middle (oil cooler line) mounting bracket and it is a piece of cake!

Explanation:- I discovered this solution with the radiator already out whilst replacing the front crankshaft seal.

I've included a photo looking from the front of the car towards the back with the radiator, engine shock / damper, and mounting bracket removed. And another photo of the middle oil cooler line mount.
They suck--big time , Tristan.
I just had to remove the ac compressor--DS engine mount shock and motor mount--and jack up the engine to get more room.
Never could get all the compressor bolts back incorrectly and gave up,, the loose ones give the ole girl a rattly sound
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Old 12-07-2014, 04:45 AM
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They suck--big time , Tristan.
I just had to remove the ac compressor--DS engine mount shock and motor mount--and jack up the engine to get more room.
Never could get all the compressor bolts back incorrectly and gave up,, the loose ones give the ole girl a rattly sound
Ahh rattly is normal on an old diesel - right?
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Hi all, I am new to the site, been lurking forever and gotten quite a bit of useful information so I thought I'd repay my debt and chime in. I just did the rubber only replacement with 15mm id hydraulic hose from Belmetric and constant torque hose clamps I bought from the heavy duty truck dealer I work at. I think the best way is obviously OEM hoses only as others have stated aftermarket hoses leak. However, you take the risk of stripping the oil cooler unless you cut the rubber, remove the cooler and then you get a better grip on everything. Like also it was stated, there is a fix for that by tapping it. O, you can try just the rubber but as Diesel911 stated, use the right size and type hose (15mm, NOT 5/8") and heat/pressure rated. Belmetric again is the only source anyone has been able to find. They sell 1 meter of it for about 42.00 shipped. Plenty to do both lines. As Mach4 stated, sometimes it works, sometimes people smoke their engines and we all learn. Well, my 85 300d was bought 2 years ago for 1350.00 so I guess it is considered a beater. Time will tell...
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Welcome to the forum Herr - hope you join in and don't go back to the lurking!
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Yea, welcome to the site...don't be a stranger.

Oil lines are one of those inevitable maintenance items for which there are a number of solutions, each with their own set of trade-offs. As you've already found, one of the benefits to a forum like this is collective information and the wisdom of the masses.

Thanks for your contribution....in post #1 no less.
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OK thanks for the welcomes. I will check back now and then and help when I can but I think I take more than I can give How do you post what cars are in your stable? I will add what I have.
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Flares instead of barbs

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Hi all, I am new to the site, been lurking forever and gotten quite a bit of useful information so I thought I'd repay my debt and chime in. I just did the rubber only replacement with 15mm id hydraulic hose from Belmetric and constant torque hose clamps I bought from the heavy duty truck dealer I work at. I think the best way is obviously OEM hoses only as others have stated aftermarket hoses leak. However, you take the risk of stripping the oil cooler unless you cut the rubber, remove the cooler and then you get a better grip on everything. Like also it was stated, there is a fix for that by tapping it. O, you can try just the rubber but as Diesel911 stated, use the right size and type hose (15mm, NOT 5/8") and heat/pressure rated. Belmetric again is the only source anyone has been able to find. They sell 1 meter of it for about 42.00 shipped. Plenty to do both lines. As Mach4 stated, sometimes it works, sometimes people smoke their engines and we all learn. Well, my 85 300d was bought 2 years ago for 1350.00 so I guess it is considered a beater. Time will tell...
By the way, look at these flares. I am not sure if it was this forum or another where someone had no barbs, just flared ends. As long as you have something like this, the hoses should not pop off assuming the proper size hose, a strong enough clamp that has been properly torqued, not too tight, not loose. The person who said they had no barbs thought they were from aftermarket hoses. I have no idea, but posting just as a reference to others.
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Just an update here on my oil cooler hoses for those who are interested, they are still fine, no leaks. Definately a cheaper easier way to go for those who have some fear of stripping out the cooler. However, off topic, a trans issue started up that I have started a new thread on. Hope for the best.
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Nice one - thanks for posting the pictures:-

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How do they look when fitted in place? When you fitted them did you get the feeling they were in there "solid" enough? I've got the impression that there is a bit of pressure from the flexible hoses pushing back onto the solid ones...

...I mean the nightmare situation would be that the new joint in the lines kinks and they leak. Sorry to sound so paranoid!

(I'm still a fan of the modification though)

I was thinking about doing this mod but instead of using the compression fitting, just use a piece of 15mm hose and (a few) clamps. Y'all think this would work okay? The hose wouldn't have pressure on it to make it slip off, and it is strong enough to hold the pressure, as evidenced by its use in the assembly. I can't think of a downside to this other than it might still leak lol.

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