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View Poll Results: Is it worthwhile making an OM617 non turbo rebuild thread? | |||
No! Not another bloody engine rebuild thread | 1 | 3.33% | |
I couldn't care less | 0 | 0% | |
Oh go on then if it makes you happy | 9 | 30.00% | |
Yes please I've got a non turbo OM617 | 19 | 63.33% | |
What is the point of this poll - do whatever you want | 1 | 3.33% | |
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Would an OM617 non turbo rebuild thread be worthwhile?
G'day Folks,
I've recently been rebuilding the engine on my 1981 W123 300D - that's an OM617 non turbo engine. As I'm in the habit of taking lots of photographs as I work I've got quite a few that could be made into a thread if it was felt to be worthwhile... If the general consensus is that people would like to see this - I'll make the effort - otherwise I won't bother!
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! |
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I think its a great idea!
The N/A shares many assebly steps that are identical I would think to the Turbo motor, differs mainly in the Oil-Pump area--For Assembly Purposes anyway....
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Oh by the way if anyone isn't happy with the choices in the poll - please feel free to ***** about it as much as you like - but remember I can't do anything about it now!
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! |
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I voted yes but I don't have the non-turbo....just like seeing lots of pictures of projects.
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I think it will be interesting. Honestly, I will never take the time/effort to rebuild one myself; but I would like to see the process.
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Id be interested in seeing it even though i dont have any NA engines...
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Army,
Having followed your progress with your rebuild, you would be doing the site a service to write up such a thread. Your perfectionist approach to the rebuild would put many experienced re-builders to shame. Bringing your many threads together into 1 will be quite a task !!
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Grumpy Old Diesel Owners Club group I no longer question authority, I annoy authority. More effect, less effort.... 1967 230-6 auto parts car. rust bucket. 1980 300D now parts car 800k miles 1984 300D 500k miles 1987 250td 160k miles English import 2001 jeep turbo diesel 130k miles 1998 jeep tdi ~ followed me home. Needs a turbo. 1968 Ford F750 truck. 6-354 diesel conversion. Other toys ~J.D.,Cat & GM ~ mainly earth moving |
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The importance in my opinion is the financial lower cost to properly rebuild the N/A engines versus the turbo varients. Post costs as you go along if practical and you have not already.
Aftermarket german pistons standard and oversize at reasonable prices in comparison to the turbo pistons account for a lot of this in my opinion. |
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Your survey doesn't include a spot for "YES, even tho I don't own one" so I didn't vote. I feel disenfranchised.
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If your just posting up pictures. Then it's just another pictorial.
But if your going to go through the process i.e. explaining the measurements, how parts are fitted. Then that would be different then the other threads.
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layback40 - you make me blush.
barry123400 - If it goes ahead I'd add in the prices strelink - I'm so sorry (perhaps you could pretend that you have one?) DeliveryValve - I'd do my best! I'm only asking this question as I got the impression that most people on the forum have the OM617a (turbo) and therefore a non turbo wouldn't be of interest
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! |
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I have an NA OM617 that I am replacing with a turbo version, and I can still see the potential value in a rebuild thread for the NA engine. (Besides, I sort of figured I would just crate it up and stash it away, just in case I ever need it for something.) If you can combine good photos with good descriptions and technical data, then I say you should go for it.
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I own both a turbo and a non-turbo (two actually, but the CD will probably be converted to a turbo).
I am content with the power I get from the non-turbo motor in my TD, but in the wagon the 500 or so extra pounds make it only acceptable in traffic around here. So when the day comes it begins to get tired, I'd like to have a reference around to follow in refreshing it. thx
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It may impact the fuel milage a little as well. I also have the cure for this. Driving one of my 240ds at speed seems to be far worse. Injector condition, fuel supply pressure and timing come to mind especially. Linkage integrity is also high on the list. I have seen at least a few examples where the arm on the injection pump is not pushed to it's stop. To repair any deficiency found is more time than money usually on these. I thought the early wagons also had a higher rear end ratio to offsett some of the additional weight as well. Also checking for dragging brakes is not a bad ideal. |
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I'd like to see it, I am still looking for the right CD and as said a lot will still be true for the turbo guys. Lets see it!
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