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Stretch · #16 01-01-2011, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mespe

some facts.

"Real" unemployment is close to 23%
Some of those unemployed own older Mercedes
Eventually some of those flex discs break on the unemployed Mercedes Owner's car.
Behind on their mortgage, and owning a car that runs but doesn't drive due to a failed flex disc,,,

Being "That" seller, I am providing a service that some knuckleheaded members may disapprove of, but some real humans are glad as heck to have found me on eBay.

Quote Layback40
"I have some good (for nothing) used suspension bushes on my 1980 300D (see my sig for mileage). You want them cheap?!!!

Have a pair of front shocks, They were leaking a couple of 100k miles ago but have stopped leaking (probably all the oil has leaked out ), I could give them a coat of paint & make them look like new. Want them as well?"

Maybe other ebayers paint old leaking shocks, but I don't usually bother to pull them, unless of course they are worthy, as I guarantee ALL parts sold.

Are you done insulting me? Please tell me your eBay userid, so that I can block you from buying any of my stuff. And in 6 months, when Mad Max shows up, you might apologize for your devilishly clever insulting posts.

And as far as used pistons, here's one for you

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360327359113

Dear mespe,

I think you are a brave and honest person to own up and respond to the criticism that was directed towards your ebay advertisement. That, to my mind speaks volumes of your attitude and approach to your business. It seems to me that few sellers would have the guts to do that. I guess this is why you maintain a "Top rated seller" status with ebay.
It is also nice to see that you have reduced your asking price to an amount that seems to me to be more in line with your argument you presented in your first response - where you state you are providing a sort of helping people out service (included in the quote above).
Good luck with your flex disc sale.

#17 01-01-2011, 12:54 PM

I have no problem with the auction, as long as the item is accurately represented the buyer can decide if it's something he wants.

Squiggle Dog · #18 01-01-2011, 01:10 PM

Oh, price lowered! I take back what I said about the price being a bit high.

yellit · #19 01-01-2011, 02:12 PM

Yep ...it takes guts to respond to criticism.....mespe seems very customer oriented on his ebay site.....and its very true that the feedback speaks for itself...I just read the ebay store info and it looks like every effort is made to keep customers happy....Thats as much as a seller can do when it comes to staying in business....especially when selling used parts....customer satisfaction is lost in this modern world of technology....but it is the single thing that matters the most.....and there are many hidden niches to be filled with parts and prices depending on the customers needs...
I think most of the scam alerts and humor by forum members are aimed at the totally outrageous sellers with crazy prices on items that are pure junk.....
There are certainly plenty of real scammer targets to keep the humor going when they pop up in ads....mespe does not fall into that category at all ....looks to be an on the level seller with good intentions....

mespe · #20 01-01-2011, 09:10 PM

Well Thank you all. Yes I did lower the price to where I originally priced them. But then I started getting "Best Offers" of $5.00 for a flex disc. And, you know, it's kinda hard making a living selling $5.00 Mercedes parts.

vstech · #21 01-01-2011, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mespe

$10 bucks more? available here on peachparts @ $61.00

http://catalog.peachparts.com/ShopByVehicle.epc?q=1983-MERCEDES--BENZ-300d&yearid=1983%40%401983&makeid=63%40%40MERCEDES+BENZ%40%40X&modelid=6191%3AED%7C10000135%3AMBC%7C1504%40%40300D&mode=SS&yearid=1983%40%401983&makeid=63%40%40MERCEDES+BENZ%40%40X&modelid=6191%3AED%7C10000135%3AMBC%7C1504%40%40300D

What you need to realize is that when a person has no money and a broken flex disc, are they wanting to pay close to $70 for a new part, or $20 for a used? Let's see $50 @ $8.00/hour wow that's a days labor for some.

Safety-critical part? Have you ever had a flex disc break on your car? I have, years ago, on a 1976 240D. A loud Clank whenever the accelerator pedal or brake is applied. Car was still driveable, and I'm sure if I continued to drive it because it was driveable and I didn't have the money to replace it, eventually it would tear up the trans tunnel and if by chance you were following me, I would think that you would have preferred that I replaced the known broken flex disc with atleast a good used one.

BTW, I would venture to say that the three flex disc I currently have in my possession are replacements only a few years old.

If you don't want to buy from me because I offer for sale a used flex disc, then by all means pm me your ebay userid an I'll be happy to block you from buying any of my stuff, that way there is no issue.

EVERYBODY CALM DOWN!
I agree with the flex disc sale. if it's a good part, no reason not to sell it for a USED price. it might have been overpriced at first, but new it's 61.00 here on the site. (Roy or Lee might be able to adjust that price if other things are on order, or if it's something needed badly) and even at 50.00 each, two would net you free shipping, so the ebay auction at 30plus shipping is not a great deal, but now that it's lowered, it's not too bad a deal for a crack free disc. if a driver needs a used part (who hasn't pulled something from the yard?) and they know it's not new, good used is better than bad original!
heck. if he's got a good ebay customer following, I'd be fine sending mespe parts for him to sell, or having him list parts and sending them to the bidder!
matter of fact, somebody actually PM'd me asking me if I had any used flex discs for sale... I'll direct him to the ebay ad.
yeesh!

ah-kay · #22 01-01-2011, 11:23 PM

I think it is a good idea to re-cycle good used stuff. Keeping an old MBZ on the road is also kind of re-cycling, otherwise a new car is needed which takes a lot resources to make.

MBA axim - you charge what the market can bear. I do not see anything wrong with charging $30. When there is no customer then the price will come down and eventually it will be sold. If someone takes the bait at $30 then he did not do his homework and check prices on line. You cannot blame the seller as price info is freely available everywhere.

OTOH If the seller thinks $5 is too low and he cannot make a living then it is too bad. It is possible that the market can only support $5 price tag. This is Capitalism. There is no unsaleable item, only unsaleable price.

vstech · #23 01-02-2011, 01:03 PM

the thread is fine, just everybody needs to lay off the hurt feelings, and name calling. information and opinions exchanged are fine, insults are not.
and I think anybody buying a used flex disc would do so eyes open. used is used. if I had a daily driver with a badly damaged flex disc I would not hesitate to put in one pulled from another car that shows no external signs of failure.
and it's NOT true that a flex disc will give signs of failure before they do. some can clunk before they let go, but they can also get very loose without clunking and just totally let go with NO warning.
this is why it's a good idea to visually inspect the bolt areas on a regular basis. during your semiannual brake flush is a good time.
it's RUBBER people it can fail quickly!

Brian Carlton · #24 01-02-2011, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mespe

For what it's worth, there are a few short-sighted egotistical smart-asses on this forum, I won't mention any names, but some of the posters to this thread know who they are.

some facts.

"Real" unemployment is close to 23%
Some of those unemployed own older Mercedes
Eventually some of those flex discs break on the unemployed Mercedes Owner's car.
Behind on their mortgage, and owning a car that runs but doesn't drive due to a failed flex disc,,,

Being "That" seller, I am providing a service that some knuckleheaded members may disapprove of, but some real humans are glad as heck to have found me on eBay.

Quote Layback40
"I have some good (for nothing) used suspension bushes on my 1980 300D (see my sig for mileage). You want them cheap?!!!

Have a pair of front shocks, They were leaking a couple of 100k miles ago but have stopped leaking (probably all the oil has leaked out ), I could give them a coat of paint & make them look like new. Want them as well?"

Maybe other ebayers paint old leaking shocks, but I don't usually bother to pull them, unless of course they are worthy, as I guarantee ALL parts sold.

Are you done insulting me? Please tell me your eBay userid, so that I can block you from buying any of my stuff. And in 6 months, when Mad Max shows up, you might apologize for your devilishly clever insulting posts.

And as far as used pistons, here's one for you

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360327359113

Oh BTW those pictures of torn up tunnels, the flex disc gives some warning after it breaks. typically a rather loud Thump. Now for someone to drive their car with a major Thump everytime the accelerator is pressed, or the brakes are applied, they kinda deserve a torn up tunnel. you wouldn't be speaking from experience, now would you?

Well said Marty.

Ignore the trolls who have nothing better to do than to malign a used part that they have never seen.

Sure, I'd like to install (and probably will) the brand new OE part. Some of the trolls are comparing the used OE part to the new Chinese aftermarket junk and they are real proud of themselves that they have a "new" part.

I'm quite sure that your used part will provide many thousands of miles of use and that you wouldn't offer it for sale unless it's safe and in good condition.

Last time I bought the OE part, it was over $70.00.............and your price represents a significant saving for those with limited resources (and there are plenty of folks in that situation).

Brian Carlton · #25 01-02-2011, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by layback40

I think it best this thread was closed. There has been enough name calling for one day!

I think that some people ought to realize that not everybody can afford a new OE part and to attack a seller, whom you don't know, and have no idea about the quality of the part is the height of ignorance.

I find your behavior to be trolling.............a post that is put up for the sole purpose of inflaming others............which you have successfully done to a long-standing and well respected member of this forum.

You owe Marty an apology.

vstech · #26 01-02-2011, 07:52 PM

Opinions about the product, and about the auction are one thing, attacking an individual for their business practices, or for their opinion of the auction is another. three responses to this thread are uncalled for. if they just stop, it'll be fine. if it continues members are going to have problems.
we get it. some of you cannot abide using used parts.
don't try to defend your opinion. it would be like defending land life to a dolphin. not applicable.
likewise, if some have issues with used parts, fine. don't insult their opinion, it's theirs.
those who live in mansions will ridicule someone who is thrilled to get a deal on a double wide trailer... attempting to explain or convince them the trailer is a great deal is not going to get them to agree.

layback40 · #27 01-02-2011, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

I think that some people ought to realize that not everybody can afford a new OE part and to attack a seller, whom you don't know, and have no idea about the quality of the part is the height of ignorance.

I find your behavior to be trolling.............a post that is put up for the sole purpose of inflaming others............which you have successfully done to a long-standing and well respected member of this forum.

You owe Marty an apology.

A quick check on ebay shows the following. While some one may have a 100% good feedback, its important to see what happens when things do go wrong.
I owe no apology.

Beware! Lied about items true condition($1850 worth)refused return $500 deposit

Member id bman122899 (

Feedback Score Of 1 )
Aug-18-03 20:22 -- (#2424793076
Auction said $0.00 shipping seller said$3.95 shipping "Fork it over" Refunded $

Member id jbard2 (

Feedback Score Of 9 )
Mar-31-03 17:58

Reply by mespe (Mar-31-03 19:59):

Well, I guess somebody has got to be an a-HOLE, I leftpositivefeedback&refunded$

-- (#2517946211)
Good pkg & prompt del. 2 tires did not have 80% wear as adv, 1 rim bad peeling.

Member id hardball13 (

Feedback Score Of 22

)
Nov-08-04 06:57 -- (#7925081909)

These are publicly listed feedback about sold items. I am sure that most who dabble in second hand parts can have problems with descriptions. As has been said before, best be careful.
Maybe this ebay store is very good, Who knows, the above mentioned ebay members were not happy.

Cosmetic appearances are not a good guide. Parts recyclers seldom know the history of what they sell, buyer be ware !!

layback40 · #28 01-02-2011, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mespe

For what it's worth, there are a few short-sighted egotistical smart-asses on this forum, I won't mention any names, but some of the posters to this thread know who they are.

some facts.

"Real" unemployment is close to 23%
Some of those unemployed own older Mercedes
Eventually some of those flex discs break on the unemployed Mercedes Owner's car.
Behind on their mortgage, and owning a car that runs but doesn't drive due to a failed flex disc,,,

Being "That" seller, I am providing a service that some knuckleheaded members may disapprove of, but some real humans are glad as heck to have found me on eBay.

Quote Layback40
"I have some good (for nothing) used suspension bushes on my 1980 300D (see my sig for mileage). You want them cheap?!!!

Have a pair of front shocks, They were leaking a couple of 100k miles ago but have stopped leaking (probably all the oil has leaked out ), I could give them a coat of paint & make them look like new. Want them as well?"

Maybe other ebayers paint old leaking shocks, but I don't usually bother to pull them, unless of course they are worthy, as I guarantee ALL parts sold.

Are you done insulting me? Please tell me your eBay userid, so that I can block you from buying any of my stuff. And in 6 months, when Mad Max shows up, you might apologize for your devilishly clever insulting posts.

And as far as used pistons, here's one for you

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360327359113

Oh BTW those pictures of torn up tunnels, the flex disc gives some warning after it breaks. typically a rather loud Thump. Now for someone to drive their car with a major Thump everytime the accelerator is pressed, or the brakes are applied, they kinda deserve a torn up tunnel. you wouldn't be speaking from experience, now would you?

There were 5 members that posted prior to this post. The highlighted name calling appears to be in need of dealing with.

Rule 3. Ad-hominem arguments and personal attacks are not permitted. Criticize the idea, not the individual. An ad-hominem argument attacks an opponent's character rather than answering his argument. Users who verbally assault the character or person of other members on a regular basis will be banned. "You're wrong" is not a personal attack; "You're wrong because you are an idiot" is an example of a personal attack. Moderator's judgment will apply.

This language is far worse than that resulting in infractions in the past.

pselaphid · #29 01-02-2011, 09:44 PM

Okay, I thought this one would go away, but it hasn't, so I'll make one more comment. We could all benefit from better forum etiquette except for those of us who are perfect. So the original post was a bit snippy, but it was directed at an ebay sale of a 28 yr old rubber part, uncracked and perfect though it was. Most of us have made fun of ebay....its fair game. A couple of others chimed in and made fun of it too.

But, let's put ourselves in the seller's shoes and ask whether the rather shrill and somewhat abusive rebuttal was justified or whether it was intended to just stir things up, which it did, or simply was generated without much forethought. And I did think the offer to block potential buyers was bizarre (why would you block customers?). Really, a simple "your entitled to your opinion, but I did point out that its a used item and noted where it came from" would have sufficed.

The guy sells a lot of Mercedes stuff and anybody on ebay who does is likely to get called out on occasion by this crowd. Perhaps he could use those criticisms in a positive manner rather than getting all bent out of shape about it...or at least be polite. Maybe we all should.

Skid Row Joe · #30 01-02-2011, 09:52 PM

It's not besmirching an individual's reputation if it is true and accurate.

If the essence of PP is truth, and I believe it is, then let truth & justice prevail.

Some of us like me, have a business side of our reputations to protect here, and if we are not living up to acceptable standards, then we will be found out.

Too bad for anyone that lies, cheats, steals, or swindles and expects to be loved here 'cause they can forget it.

I say a thread like this IS warranted, IF it publicizes existing bad laundry of this guy if true, OR any outfit before one of us gets burnt.

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