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Old 05-08-2011, 06:37 PM
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I don't know why you guys run these diesels anymore.

I got a solid 26 mpg in my E430 going 80 mph in 100% freeway driving when we last went to Las Vegas.
tsk tsk tsk... bashing a diesel on the diesel forum is tantamount to treason...
besides, NOTHING went wrong with his diesel, he lost a few lug bolts... the same would occur with your e430...

now, as to why he left town without a lug wrench... perhaps he felt his diesel was so reliable as to not even think about needing tools...

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Old 05-08-2011, 06:39 PM
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My E320s got about the same mileage as my 300TD, not quite as good as my 300D, but the gassers have no soul. My sales cars were Grand Marquis for several years, 27.5mpg every day for 1500miles/week on each one, so I guess that makes it a better car? Not even close. I'm not a 210 fan at all, or I'd love the much better mileage of the '98/'99 E300 Diesel. When the W210s replaced the 124s I vowed to never buy another new Mercedes, since then all of my new cars have been other makes.
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Old 05-08-2011, 06:40 PM
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tsk tsk tsk... bashing a diesel on the diesel forum is tantamount to treason...
besides, NOTHING went wrong with his diesel, he lost a few lug bolts... the same would occur with your e430...

now, as to why he left town without a lug wrench... perhaps he felt his diesel was so reliable as to not even think about needing tools...
On the other hand he didn't have any spring perch problems, ...
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Old 05-08-2011, 08:02 PM
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....Nothing worse than getting passed by one of your wheels!!!
That is an interesting thing to see.... I have seen it .... and initially one wonders why the wheel would go faster than the auto it just got loose from..
I think I know...
Anyone else want to describe the physics ?
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Old 05-08-2011, 08:08 PM
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I can't explain the physics, however, once when I was a kid, I was coasting down a steep hill in a wagon. I saw a wheel rolling ahead of me, and, next thing I knew, I was rolling down the hill, a$$ over teakettle, without the wagon.....
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OUCH ....Paul,

Your wheel is moving at the same rpm as the other wheels on your vehicle...
but the effective radius is less due to the weight of the car pushing down on the tire.'
When released from the car that rotational energy is still there.... but immediately the circumference is greater... thus it speeds up and goes past you.... a very strange feeling..
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Old 05-08-2011, 08:42 PM
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I can't explain the physics, however, once when I was a kid, I was coasting down a steep hill in a wagon. I saw a wheel rolling ahead of me, and, next thing I knew, I was rolling down the hill, a$$ over teakettle, without the wagon.....
While we never noticed the wheel passing us we lost a front wheel on a homemade jeep with four kids aboard on a long hill. Besides one member having a chipped tooth all the rest of us did well. We were lucky as that homebuilt toy was really traveling on a long steep hill. We were all around ten at the time.

Tom was lucky that mercedes uses wheel bolts instead of studs or he would have been on the forum claiming he lost his nuts.
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Old 05-08-2011, 09:31 PM
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My sales cars were Grand Marquis for several years, 27.5mpg every day for 1500miles/week on each one, so I guess that makes it a better car?
My hat's off to you; you must drive with a really light touch. I had a Ford Crown Vic for a while, ex police cruiser, and it struggled to stay above 20 mpg.
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Old 05-08-2011, 09:51 PM
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The police cruiser (and the perfomance package on the GM) have a lower gearing, probably part of it. Also, my Grand Marquis' were new and in "perfect tune", with green Michelins, synthetic oil, all of my usual tricks.
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Old 05-08-2011, 09:55 PM
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1978 I was driving my sister to college and on the freeway in my '71 superbeetle. All of a sudden the engine revved, and as I was messing with the shifter to see why it popped out of gear, I saw my left rear wheel pass me and roll into the median at ~60mph. An interesting feeling, and a well designed suspension that the wheel left me and dropped it to the brake backer without the car's level changing noticably.

The castle nut on the axle had come off (no cotter pin for some reason) and was still in the hubcap, a quick re-install and a hair-pin from my sister's luggage and off to finish our 200mile journey.

Ahh the simpler times.

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That is an interesting thing to see.... I have seen it .... and initially one wonders why the wheel would go faster than the auto it just got loose from..
I think I know...
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Old 05-08-2011, 10:04 PM
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similar thing happened to me.
it must have been 92 or so, I was in an 87 astro van, and the spiders came apart, and launched the wheel with axle still attached to it, into the busy street.
I'm driving the service van in heavy traffic, and all of a sudden there is not any cars beside me anymore...
the van had gov loc differential, and the car happily was driving with one axle sticking out the side of the diff... until it went just a tad to far out, and I'm sitting at an odd angle, and my tire with a 3' steel bar gyroscopically spinning passes me as I grind to a halt on the road... no brakes, because the fluid dumps itself out the blown slave...

I'm watching the tire bouncing towards oncomming traffic, just KNOWING it's going to skewer some shmuck when it bounces onto the median... stays on the median for a while, and gently rolls back towards my side of the road all the way to the curb...
I've still got the van... it does not go anywhere anymore...
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Old 05-08-2011, 10:28 PM
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I was looking for a 4wd to push show with off my parking lot. I needed a cheap one. I went to a nearby small town and looked at either a bronco or a blazer I think. As I went around a right hand turn the right rear of the truck dropped down to the pavement. The axle had walked out. Fortunately I had not driven very far with it and simply walked back to the house and told the seller what had happened. He did not act surprised or anything. I drove home. That was not the first time that axle had come out!
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If someone just arrived at this forum....and saw this thread first.....they might think we were a dangerous bunch to be around.... or driving in the same vicinity of....
Wheels and axles just coming off in every direction....
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Old 05-09-2011, 02:13 AM
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Find another SD and offer the owner $20 for each lug from each of his 4 wheels.
Funny enough I had to do this. Starts at post 24

Ol' Turbo is at it again... Another Cross Country Trek

Paid $100 for 5 lugs and a spare by searching Craigslist and finding a trashed 300D for sale for cheap.
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Old 05-09-2011, 02:56 AM
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As far as why the wheel passes you I suspect having a wheel off and the car down dragging on the frame will slow you down quite a bit too, while the wheel continues on its merry way.

I lost a wheel off my travel trailer once and it passed me and disappeared. We looked for it for at leat a half hour and never found it. Fortunately I did have a spare, and a lug wrench!

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