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Old 05-28-2011, 08:07 AM
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Guess what I'm up to... :)


hmmmmmm...

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Old 05-28-2011, 08:09 AM
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so, you got the interior out! have you tackled the seat springs/motors yet?
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Old 05-28-2011, 08:09 AM
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Tada!!!




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Old 05-28-2011, 08:10 AM
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you know you HAVE to post some good pics of that dash area now that the cover is out!
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

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Old 05-28-2011, 08:11 AM
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WOW... loookie at all the pretty wires!
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
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Old 05-28-2011, 08:14 AM
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hehe... will try to itemize the procedure.
This is the 2nd time I've done this... I still do not like it! haha. but it is doable... took me 4 hrs.
I'm considering retro fitting a much simpler underdash unit... for easier future maintenance.
Any opinions?
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Old 05-28-2011, 08:17 AM
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The wires are NO WHERE as intimidating as a w140's... this is easily 1/8 the amount of wires on a w140!
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Old 05-28-2011, 09:40 AM
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The wires are NO WHERE as intimidating as a w140's... this is easily 1/8 the amount of wires on a w140!
How did the w140 end up?
You are a much braver man than me !!!!
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Old 05-28-2011, 10:12 AM
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hehe... will try to itemize the procedure.
This is the 2nd time I've done this... I still do not like it! haha. but it is doable... took me 4 hrs.
I'm considering retro fitting a much simpler underdash unit... for easier future maintenance.
Any opinions?
Exactly my thought. My attitude is not so much as to keep the Benz in pristine factory condition, but upon breakage, look for a simpler option for replacement that would never have to be addressed again.

For example, A/C working fine in my car now, but if it ever stops working - it comes out entirely condenser grill and all. I only use A/C over maybe 2 months for maybe what 30 trips? So what's more important to me is heat. Need that all the time here.

If I was staring at this hole in the dash and wanted a heater, I'd look to putting a generic small truck add-on heater unit with its own heater core and a fan with a few settings, and duct its output to all dash and footwell ports, proportioned as "equally" as I could get it with bias on the windshield. I'd leave all the factory dash buttons in place but gut the automatic climate control features, and simply hook up the fan switch behind some buttons. When done, couldn't tell for looking at it. Operation would be rock solid, simple, and probably never fail again.

e.g. http://www.princessauto.com/trailer/truck/winter/heating/4240004-21000-btu-12v-auxiliary-heater

or a few of these:

http://www.princessauto.com/trailer/truck/winter/heating/4240007-3425-btu-12v-auxiliary-heater
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Old 05-28-2011, 10:41 AM
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Recirc Inlet

Locry,

Now that your HVAC unit is out perhaps you could help me.

I've been trying to find where there units draw air when in full recirc mode. Obviously the fresh air draw is through the front (towards the hood). But when the 'vacuum-actuated pods' are set in the recirc mode the unit draws air from the interior of the car.

Would you look over your unit and tell me (photo would be great) where they air when in recirc mode?

Thanks.

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Old 05-28-2011, 10:51 AM
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Exactly my thought. My attitude is not so much as to keep the Benz in pristine factory condition, but upon breakage, look for a simpler option for replacement that would never have to be addressed again.

For example, A/C working fine in my car now, but if it ever stops working - it comes out entirely condenser grill and all. I only use A/C over maybe 2 months for maybe what 30 trips? So what's more important to me is heat. Need that all the time here.

If I was staring at this hole in the dash and wanted a heater, I'd look to putting a generic small truck add-on heater unit with its own heater core and a fan with a few settings, and duct its output to all dash and footwell ports, proportioned as "equally" as I could get it with bias on the windshield. I'd leave all the factory dash buttons in place but gut the automatic climate control features, and simply hook up the fan switch behind some buttons. When done, couldn't tell for looking at it. Operation would be rock solid, simple, and probably never fail again.

e.g. http://www.princessauto.com/trailer/truck/winter/heating/4240004-21000-btu-12v-auxiliary-heater

or a few of these:

http://www.princessauto.com/trailer/truck/winter/heating/4240007-3425-btu-12v-auxiliary-heater
Hehe, yup I agree completely! That's the plan...SIMPLIFY! I'm also gonna keep the original switches... the fan rotary switch and the a/c on/off will be hidden in the glovebox(probably)
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Old 05-28-2011, 11:12 AM
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How did the w140 end up?
You are a much braver man than me !!!!
Unfortunately progress on the w140 is at a standstill due to limited funds. It's basically waiting for an engine... then re-assembly only then will I start re-wiring/modifying interior controls.

@sjh...
what year is your car? if its the same as mine it won't have a pollen filter. It draws air at the TOP of the airbox. Peeking through the opening from the inside of the car you can see the hamster cages.


wow, didn't realize the pics are awful... haha, its dark out when I took the pics just now...
the light colored part, the bracket looking thing sits inside the car, the entire airbox mounts from the inside, anything beyond that braket sits outside the firewall
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Old 05-28-2011, 01:06 PM
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@sjh...
what year is your car? if its the same as mine it won't have a pollen filter. It draws air at the TOP of the airbox. Peeking through the opening from the inside of the car you can see the hamster cages.
locry,

I believe you are describing the fresh-air inlet. I'm asking about the recirc-air inlet.

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Old 05-28-2011, 04:17 PM
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hmmmmmm...
you lost something and just went nuts looking for it?
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Old 05-29-2011, 03:02 AM
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@sjh,
The opening I'm referring to is inside the car, That's the only opening that I can see where fresh air can be drawn in. It's not clear in the pics I know .
I know of the fresh air inlet, that half of the airbox sits outside the firewall... the inlet/opening I'm referring to sits directly behind the fresh air flap. When the evap is installed, the TOP most part is where the airbox draws in air.

@Renntag, I lost my soul... in the process... hahaha

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