Kit to allow use of 5 speed W124 manual gearboxes in a W123 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

Stretch · #1 08-30-2011, 06:50 AM

G'day Folks,

I saw this and I thought of all of you automatic transmission haters out there!

{I don't know why you all hate them so much - but here goes this one's for you baby!}

http://link.marktplaats.nl/478988493

Because this link won't last forever I've made some screen shots for you.

A rough translation for you non Dutch speakers out there - done by yours truly - so it will be a bit off!

Adapter kit for older 4 speed W123 (and other older models) to enable you to fit a W124 5 speed gearbox.

The adapter [rings] replaces the transmission adapter to allow you fit the W124 5 speed gearbox. The starter remains in the old position.

This kit only contains the adapter rings. Other alterations such as transmission mount and the propshaft are simple enough for you to work out yourself [!]

525 Euros for the adapter rings (excluding the gearbox and the engine)

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So you'd still need to sort out the propshaft, flywheel (if it wasn't a manual one), transmission mount, and other bits such as a gear lever in the right place (perhaps?)...

Enjoy!

P.S. This has nothing to do with me! I'd just post up the plans so you could get your own CNC machining done!

ForcedInduction · #2 08-30-2011, 07:38 AM

$750 is a lot for a piece of metal. You could buy a genuine W123 5-speed from Germany less.
That and the starter nose will still hit the transmission bell and leave a big hole for debris/water to get in.

Stretch · #3 08-30-2011, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction

$750 is a lot for a piece of metal. You could buy a genuine W123 5-speed from Germany less.
That and the starter nose will still hit the transmission bell and leave a big hole for debris/water to get in.

It does strike me as a lot of money too - but then I still haven't gotten used to Dutch labour rates...

lutzTD · #4 08-30-2011, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Army

It does strike me as a lot of money too - but then I still haven't gotten used to Dutch labour rates...

if time were money a lot of guys spent much more than that on a lot of other schemes to get a 5 speed in a W123

thanx for the link. hopefully if someone tries it they will post results or even better the process

winmutt · #5 08-30-2011, 08:46 AM

900+ shipping is more like it. For that kind of $ you can buy a 5 speed.

greazzer · #6 08-30-2011, 09:02 AM

Hey Winmutt,

How can I get a Getrag 717.400 5 speed for $750 or whatever the costs noted by Forced Induction ? From Germany or where ever? I have been looking for years now. I am looking for a 4 speed donor car to get everything BUT the 5 speed transmission. Any leads would be very appreciated. Winmutt, you're about 3 hours from me. I am willing to drive one weekend to get the 5 speed. If that happens, I have an awsome upgraded driveshaft for sale since the 5 speed transmission will use a shortened driveshaft. Thanks.

charmalu · #7 08-30-2011, 09:13 AM

Here is the Google translation
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=nl&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fauto-onderdelen.marktplaats.nl%2Fmercedes-benz-onderdelen%2F478988493-aanpassing-kit-voor-w124-5-bak-in-w123-115.html

There is also the Dropnosky method.

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/Thread-How-to-adapt-a-W201-5-speed-to-OM616-OM617-applications

Charlie

Stretch · #8 08-30-2011, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by charmalu

Here is the Google translation
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=nl&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fauto-onderdelen.marktplaats.nl%2Fmercedes-benz-onderdelen%2F478988493-aanpassing-kit-voor-w124-5-bak-in-w123-115.html

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Charlie

So a relatively faithful translation from Army I feel!

Stretch · #9 08-30-2011, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by greazzer

Hey Winmutt,

How can I get a Getrag 717.400 5 speed for $750 or whatever the costs noted by Forced Induction ? From Germany or where ever? I have been looking for years now. I am looking for a 4 speed donor car to get everything BUT the 5 speed transmission. Any leads would be very appreciated. Winmutt, you're about 3 hours from me. I am willing to drive one weekend to get the 5 speed. If that happens, I have an awsome upgraded driveshaft for sale since the 5 speed transmission will use a shortened driveshaft. Thanks.

For sale in Holland

http://link.marktplaats.nl/475272346

150 euros... but we hit ye olde postage problem again...

charmalu · #10 08-30-2011, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Army

So a relatively faithful translation from Army I feel!

OH darn, I thought you would be all snuggle in your bed by now.

6:40am on the west coast, and first cup of coffee.

Charlie

charmalu · #11 08-30-2011, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Army

For sale in Holland

http://link.marktplaats.nl/475272346

150 euros... but we hit ye olde postage problem again...

Any one know somebody in the military that could swing by and pick that thing up?

Charlie

Stretch · #12 08-30-2011, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by charmalu

OH darn, I thought you would be all snuggle in your bed by now.

6:40am on the west coast, and first cup of coffee.

Charlie

Nahhh it is 15:44 here - I'm making dinner for the kids - I feel like chicken tonight!

greazzer · #13 08-30-2011, 09:45 AM

Thats for a W124. I have a W123. 1985 300D. Anyone out there for my car, W123

Stretch · #14 08-30-2011, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by charmalu

Any one know somebody in the military that could swing by and pick that thing up?

Charlie

Hold your horses Charlie I guess it has been to the moon and back - "good ones" - although it is difficult to tell sell for closer to 300 Euros. How much would it cost to rebuild one?