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Old 09-19-2012, 06:56 PM
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1983 240D, hit a curb, suspension damage

A little too fast in the rain turning into my neighborhood, into the median curb, BAM.

details of the carnage

https://picasaweb.google.com/102106351327485959886/CarVsCurbCurbWon?authkey=Gv1sRgCK_W9cjS7JO_GQ

Notice the left side guide rod, it is supposed to be straight but now it most definitely is not.

Drivers side front tire pushed back to wheel well cover.

Luckily the oil pan did not rupture.

VStech and I are going to be fixing it, any advice??

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Old 09-19-2012, 07:07 PM
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Slow down on wet curves?

(Sorry could not resist).
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Old 09-19-2012, 07:12 PM
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You just need a little alignment job right?
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Old 09-19-2012, 07:41 PM
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Chuckle

The bow shaped guide rod tube is stunning.


The wheel rim is impressive.


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Old 09-19-2012, 07:52 PM
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The bow shaped guide rod tube is stunning.

The wheel rim is impressive.

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Takes a bit of force to bend a guide rod tube.
What is the mounting area for the guide rod end like? Hopefully it has not been moved back at all.
Once the rod tube is replaced it will be interesting to see how the adjustment of the castor goes.
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Old 09-19-2012, 07:55 PM
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That damage looks eerily similar to how my car looked after a particular fun St. Patrick's Day in 2009. That car was an '83 rust bucket that I bought for 1100, drove for a year and sold for 600, damage done. Drove it for a year on WVO so I think I made my money back on it...

Hope you get it straightened out 100%! Your car looks much nicer than mine did.
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Old 09-19-2012, 08:23 PM
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Hmm

The guide rod mount may be ever so slightly tweaked.

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Old 09-19-2012, 08:48 PM
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yikes thats impressive
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notice how close the left adjustment bolt is to the eccentric brace... and the clean area around it... also look at the LCA bushing angles...

this is gonna be FUN to take apart!
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Old 09-20-2012, 11:06 PM
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The guide rod mount may be ever so slightly tweaked.
what is bothering me about this car is this pic...
I have the car jacked up and supported on stands, and the guide rod contacted the brace on the left, it's bent. there's a dent in the metal, and the brace behind it is bent.
a little hard to tell from this angle, but I'll get some better pics up tomorrow...
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Old 09-20-2012, 11:12 PM
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This is the second incident of this in a month, although under slightly different circumstances.......I have tested the traction turning in the rain, you'd have to be going pretty darn quick to drift and hit a curb....

I see the tires were "RAINFORCE".....oh the irony....
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My 17 yo son was driving and our 14 yo son was in the passenger seat. They were coming home from band practice about 7:30 pm last Monday night. It had just lightly rained for a couple minutes and stopped. The asphalt road was very slick due to the oil rising to the top with the slight rain and no more behind it to wash it off.

He was coming off the main road (limit 45, he says he was doing somewhat less due to the rain) and began to make the right turn coming into our development. He understeered, he says he turned the wheel but the car kept going straight. He hit the 4" concrete median curb at a 45 degree angle. The median had a flower bed in it so the only casualty besides the car was a half dozen pansies.

Car does not have ABS, I suspect he may have locked the front wheels when applying the brakes to make his turn. I think the slick asphalt caught him by surprise.

He did the Richard Petty teen skid pad course at CMS last fall, he remembered what to do, let off the brakes, but just ran out of road to get it straightened out again before hitting the curb.

What is important is that no one is hurt, the car can hopefully be fixed, and my kids are safe.
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:04 AM
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what is bothering me about this car is this pic...
I have the car jacked up and supported on stands, and the guide rod contacted the brace on the left, it's bent. there's a dent in the metal, and the brace behind it is bent.
a little hard to tell from this angle, but I'll get some better pics up tomorrow...
I would cut the tube (sawzall) to relieve tension - pressure, before further diagnosis.

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Old 09-21-2012, 06:35 AM
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Hey accidents happen! As they go this is one that could have happened to a lot of us.

I don't see clear evidence of bending on the base structure from the photos but it is also not clear there is not. Even if it is tweaked a bit it still may align fine as long as the adjustment limits have not been exceeded.

You're in good hands there.
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:37 AM
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VStech and I are going to be fixing it, any advice??
Now is the time to replace every worn front end part. Shocks, bushings, etc.

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