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Old 10-13-2012, 06:17 PM
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project "GM Benz II" has begun......

One of the more popular threads here was the original
project "GM Benz" has begun...
--- a real crowd pleaser for sure.
Im working on something not really similar but maybe some of you merc diesel people will like. One of my old time projects from the last century has to get DONE.
Since I came across a sweet little CD with a known good motor, This GM product will get a 617A like cells "cute Little" chevy pickup.



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Old 10-13-2012, 06:25 PM
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This little coupe had lots of reciepts in the glove box from a well known shop on white settlement in ft worth, The lady boasted about how they always made sure it was serviced correctly. Unfortunately for them-Her husband thought it was a good idea to monkey with it when he was drinking and somehow crossed the battery cables and fried the harness.
it still has all the german filters on it and was sitting simce the mishap around 08.
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Old 10-13-2012, 06:37 PM
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I got the car stripped and all the unnecessary stuff removed from the engine, hooked up a new cable set and an extra ground running to the block, plummed in some diesel to the rubber lines from a jug and touched the two rirs together, it cranked and blew some smoke, I didn't cover the air intake with a gas soaked rag or a shot of wd 40 to help, just pumped up the primer and retried, after about 15 minutes it fired and started- a slight bit of noise initally but smoothed out-- sounded kinda groggy-- But also FINE. I made it easy on myself with the starter bolts
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:20 PM
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Always sad to see a perfectly good body rust free W123 (especially coupe) tossed.
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Wwwoooow panZZer... that's some serious "shaky cam" work... Thanks for sharing though.

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Old 10-14-2012, 03:58 PM
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Always sad to see a perfectly good body rust free W123 (especially coupe) tossed.
You really cant tell but the
ds quarter is crumpled pretty good -- but some northern guys would love to spend some quality time with a torch or cuttoff wheels getting the floorboards, but -too many vehicles here and this one's got to pay for my pickup registration. Im keeping the rust free doors they are avalable.... and some other coupe stuff.

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PE I dont know what Shaky Cam is - you mean the other kind of 3.0 liter merk?
Any way I started degreasing the engine and a storm came thru so i had to get it in the garage. Before I started it up I took off the turbo compressor housing and the intake manifold and cleaned the gunk out of the intake ports. I got about 3 oz of crud with the plastic gloves on- didn't bother with the intake, Just bolted on a clean non egr one and tossed the late one in the pile. This engine still has the factory seal on the alda-- nobody's "Popped its cherry" yet.
The engine its keeping company is the very same 292 chevy from cells 67 chevy pickup. Most guys know these engines get 11 miles per gallon- loaded or unloaded-- while being used in small dump trucks. with some electronic wizardry, cell managed 14.5 i think- by inducing air to help lean it out. The main problem with rich running old chevy gasoline engines are auto parts store remanufactured fuel pumps that put out around 9psi when only 3 are needed , that ends up making the carb leak internally.
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When our esteemed member Delibes came thru on his way to Me-he-co we went and had some of Tx finest BBQ and we were drivin around the stockyards in Ft Worth he was telling me about a girfriend spoiled rotten apparantly. We came back and tried to start this engine, and tried and tried. Only one slight click from the starter-- The cables going down to it wer not melted like up at the junction block so I knew the starter was good--- These things aren't old GM stuff, these starters are seriously built.
Anyway out of the blue Meguel says--"I herby name this engine Rachel" after the latte swilling little NYC girl he knows that simply refuses to co-operate
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Anyway out of the blue Meguel says--"I herby name this engine Rachel" after the latte swilling little NYC girl he knows that simply refuses to co-operate
I perfectly remember that day! Yes, that engine was exhausting out patience at such a fast rate I had no choice but name if after my former GF!
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PE I dont know what Shaky Cam is - you mean the other kind of 3.0 liter merk?
The pictures are blurry from shaking the camera.
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yep-- Got that ole heapp properly-- well some wont think so-- disposed of. perhaps its coming back as a chery or a nanjing.

if you look closely its the second or third in this stack of pancakes-- i dont know whats up with the blue pics--its always something.
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OK-- this is the way it is, Im a vintage GMC nut.
This is GMC's 100 yr anniversary.
Im going to try to get the motor installed and fired up this yr.

1912 the upstart Co called GM discarded its founder Willam Durant and was aquiring small companies left and right. Two were the Rapid truck and Reliance truck companies. The 1912 GMC was just a rebadged Reliance, kind of a buckboard wagon with a two cyl opposing engine under the seat in a louvered box. Im guessing that cabs were a dealer installed option back then....

The great war came along and GMc's served like all the others, Mack was the best loved workhorse then and earned the bulldog moniker by British troops on the fields of France..

Thru the twenties --

Alfred p Sloans GM became the juggernaut that Could Not Be Stopped !


They would ruthlessly roll-over or buy out anyone who stood in their way. in 1924 they aqquired 51% of yellow coach and busted it in two--one side became Yellow truck and coach-builders of the GMC trucks. the other continued building bus's for the mass transit angle.

It took care of buiz and into the thirties GMC built my favorite type of streamlined art deco style trucks-- GMC art and color division ammped up on colorful ads starting in 36 riding the art deco trends that was sweeping the world-- everything was meant to be as beautiful to look at as much as be functional, wether it was an exposition building at the fair displaying a car or truck, or a toaster in the kitchen.

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Around 1936 the first diesel engines were also installed in export GMC's headed for europe-( I dont think there was a diesel fueling infrastructure in the US in the mid thirties. One could probaly truck the eastern seaboard or seattle to san francisco but not across the US. By 1940 things were changing)
GM had before the war a big assembly plant in Belgum--and also after the war into the 70's and later. Many vehicles were sent in kick down form and assembled there,the buyer could get a Buda or Hercules engine in a late 30s GMC-- Oldsmobile was also an export truck then based on the common chevy gmc smaller trucks.


1936 is also the first yr GMC offered a 1/2 ton pickup--one of the coolest and most collectable 30's pickups that you can still own an example of if you look hard enough.

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they just kept truckin right out of the depression and into the 40's , when WWII engulfed the USA, we were already half way geared, The main workhorse this time was the 2.5 ton 6x6 "duece-n-a- half' GMC that also came in the coe version. any truck on an assembly line was immediately sprayed with olive drab green paint-- even chrome-it was just sanded and sprayed.

The first one of these I found was a severly abused pile of scrapmetal in Russelville AR. A rare hard cab COE 2.5 ton 6x6 from 42. 1943 and up were all open soft covered cabs. It was just the cab torched off with the front axle/ 270 and the grill guard protecting that 3 ft tall grill. It had been sold as govt surplus and its second life was spent pulling a bull dozer on a float- the fenders looked like they had been run over by the dozer.

The second was the single rear axel 4x4 1.5/3 ton. The army quartermaster corps took delivery of this one in March 41, 8 months before Pearl harbor. Im sure it was purchased as Govt surplus at what was then camp Hood--now Fort Hood, the largest military installation in the country in Kileen TX. The truck was found --I got a tip- in Zorn Tx, a wide spot in the road half way between San Marcos and Seguin Tx.
Its second life was also pulling a dozer on a float by a Mr Krutcher who did excavation work. I bought it from his son Edgar Krutcher - name sounds like south Tx German immigrant decendants.

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The axles on these things weigh around 750lbs each and they were sold with the transfer case to a guy who wanted to do his own napco kit for a 50 chevy 1.5 ton.

The truck now has 1 ton stepvan indepindent front suspension bolted to the original frame and a 1 ton rear axle -8 lugs all the way around and at the moment 32" tall tires / 16' budd wheels. its not nearly as freakishly tall as it was sitting on those spring packs and the front axle but I still might do some mre lowering.
at the moment im under the gun to get the passenger side fender mould finished before it gets too cool to work with the itchy **** anymore this yr.
i tried a cheapo harbor freight electric spray gun and first time the gelcoat was too thick and it spat and splattered all over..... normally this would have been a big monkey phuc but im a plastics tooling "jedi" and knew a trick to keep the stuff easy to sand down , next try i got it thin enough and got a nice even coat on--im just putting a layer of plastic down that can be sanded finer and finer then waxed and ready to build a mould off of. The fenders are remarkably like giant VW beetle fenders -a very nice pair-- this one needed about 2 oz of filler- on a 75 yr old army truck fender
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You're planning to power this truck with an OM617?

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