Little or NO power after bottoming out suspension- 1981 300SD - Page 17 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

funola · #**241** 03-15-2013, 12:18 PM

whunter, in this pic you posted of the rubber oil pickup tube, how is it attached to the metal neck? Is it by friction, or is there a band clamp? I can't tell from the pic what holds it in place and form a leak free seal.

funola · #**242** 03-15-2013, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Silber Adler

What I have learned from this thread is that I really need to make a skid plate under the engine sump. Skid Plate? 300D

I think a low oil pressure alarm is just as important if not more important.

Any other lessons learned?

funola · #**243** 03-15-2013, 12:30 PM

whunter, looking at your pics more closely, why is this rubber oil pickup made in 2 pieces?

whunter · #**244** 03-16-2013, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by funola

whunter, in this pic you posted of the rubber oil pickup tube, how is it attached to the metal neck? Is it by friction, or is there a band clamp? I can't tell from the pic what holds it in place and form a leak free seal.

You FORCE the rubber lip over the end of the pickup tube.
The feet actually contact the oil pan, and add a bit of upward pressure = roughly 5 MM of intake clearance between pan and pickup rubber.

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whunter · #**245** 03-16-2013, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by funola

whunter, looking at your pics more closely, why is this rubber oil pickup made in 2 pieces?

The neck is broken on that one = trash.

FYI: Thanks for asking, I went back and edited text into post# 225 for future members.

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funola · #**246** 03-16-2013, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by whunter

The neck is broken on that one = trash.

FYI: Thanks for asking, I went back and edited text into post# 225 for future members.

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You're welcome!

I am still wondering exactly what caused the oil starvation, now that I have a better understanding of the construction of the rubber oil pickup tube. I don't see how a dented oil pan pushed up against the bottom of the pickup tube can seal the opening off. The 4 feet/ standoffs will prevent that with the 4 openings that is created by it. Unless the rubber pickup was split open (above the oil level) like in your pic, sucking air instead of oil.

Rollguy re-used the crushed rubber pickup tube because he did not have another one. What was the extent of the damage to that rubber pickup tube?

charmalu · #**247** 03-16-2013, 12:13 PM

Roy I did a Google search on the part# 110 180 03 55 you show on pg 15 post#225. and MB of South Atalanta come up and lists the part as NLA.

STRAINER. SUCTION BASKET. Mercedes 600 SEL V12 # 1101800355

I think it is also listed in the Unobtaniul parts thread also.

So what would you recommend for a replacement? I suppose there are still a few floating around with some of the parts suppliers, or on a shelf in someone`s garage.

I pick up looking a the MB site above, this part was used on a lot of MB engines over the years.

Might have to start dropping oil pans at PNP.

Charlie

ROLLGUY · #**248** 03-16-2013, 02:27 PM

Today Brad called and said that some thieves came and hacked up the interior of his car, and tried to steal the battery. He also gave me some bad news that he had left the keys under the seat because he did not know when I would come to work on it (he admitted it was a stupid thing to do) and the thieves stole them as well. He does not have an extra set, so no way to even start the car if he wanted to. The ignition lock has been changed, so he can't even get a key from the dealer. We are not sure what to do now.

whunter · #**249** 03-16-2013, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ROLLGUY

Today Brad called and said that some thieves came and hacked up the interior of his car, and tried to steal the battery. He also gave me some bad news that he had left the keys under the seat because he did not know when I would come to work on it (he admitted it was a stupid thing to do) and the thieves stole them as well. He does not have an extra set, so no way to even start the car if he wanted to. The ignition lock has been changed, so he can't even get a key from the dealer. We are not sure what to do now.

If this gets any better for him, the car will fall into a Black Hole...

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dude99 · #**250** 03-16-2013, 07:38 PM

or catch on fire for no apparent reason.... talk about an epic streak of bad luck...

dude99 · #**251** 03-16-2013, 07:41 PM

on more helpful note however I suppose you could cut out the steering lock and replace the cylinder with a new one. You could also order a dealer key for the doors, but the thieves would have the keys to those... You could get a junk yard set and have a locksmith key them to fit the new ignition cylinder key... But all of those seems like a lot of hassle for a car that most likely has a toasted motor... Maybe part it out then scrap the left overs? at least he'd get a few $$ out of it that way....

MS Fowler · #**252** 03-16-2013, 08:24 PM

Insure it, then wait for the lightning to strike and set it ablaze.

ROLLGUY · #**253** 03-16-2013, 08:40 PM

Brad seems to think the guys will be back to try taking the car. He said all he wants is the keys back, he is not mad at the thieves. He is planning to keep watch all night from one of the other buildings. He said if they come back and try to take the car, he will hear it cranking and come out wielding a 2X4 and scare them off. Hopefully they will leave the key in the ignition and run. He is going to unhook the glow plug harness so it will crank and not start. Even if they did get the car started, it won't move very fast under it's own power anyway! (we won't tell that to the thieves).