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Hey Jooseppi I think that fan was swapped for a higher cfm unit. I know the white car had a circular shroud non-stock fan, I can't remember if I replaced that with the stock unit when I swapped over but I think we kept the aftermarket one. If the circular one is in there then you can cross that off the list.
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I may be wrong but I thought I read that the 85 SD had a different comdenser ?
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You can always go to R134 later and absorb the cost after your R12 components fail. Making components of the system more efficient never hurts but can be very costly. I live in Texas and plan to go the complete rebuild route: Sanden compressor, new hoses, parallel flow condenser, 2nd Gen Fan, new Receiver Drier, clean out the evaporator, replace the expansion valve and switch, check/replace the drain and temperature tube/sensor in the dash. It's gonna be costly and time consuming but I gotta do it. I plan to drive this wagon for a very long time.
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what I've read about es12, you do not HAVE to evacuate, but evacuation is wise for best performance. air does not condense... water will not affect the refrigerant, but it can affect the oil.
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My R12 components are all bad, anyway. I was thinking it would be wiser to install all R134a compatible parts (new condenser, compressor, hoses, etc) and then use R134a. But, if even using entirely new technology parts with R134a doesn't cool as well as the old technology using R12, then I guess there is no point in converting since it seems R12 will be available forever.
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there is a thread on here where a member redesigned his ac to use an orifice tube, and it has massive air flow, and it's COLD!!! and it uses 134a, so it's possible, the stock system is designed for cooling... not superchilling the vehicle.
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That is great, but not everyone can do that. With the 100+ degree temps we are having this weekend here in the So Cal desert, my 240 is very comfortable inside after a few minutes of driving (it takes a few minutes to cool the hot cab after sitting in the sun). I am just saying that a Sanden upgrade is well worth the $ and effort, and will give much better cooling than the R4 ever thought of giving. A Sanden with R12 would be even better....Rich
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I have made an aluminum block that replaces the expansion valve on some vehicles that contains a drilled orifice and a port for a cycling switch. Nowadays I think you can simply purchase the blocks online to convert to a CCOT system...FWIW
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Although smoother running and requiring less HP to operate than the R4, I doubt the Sanden would make the system any colder....FWIW
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I have converted at least five Mercedes to R-134a from R-12, and frankly I think the notion that R-134 fails to sufficiently cool the car is way overblown.
I blow out the oil, replace the o-rings, replace the receiver drier, pull a deep vacuum on the system for a few hours to boil off contaminants, then charge the system with Ester oil and fill with 80% of the R-12 capacity. I have tested the air vent temperature of the cars after doing this and many of them will come awfully close to freezing temps - yes, even with an R4 compressor. Several of these conversions are now over three years old, used almost daily, with zero issues. I see no reason to spend a fortune changing hoses, compressors, condensers, etc until something breaks. |
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I used "Enviro Safe" that absolutely mixes with both R12 and 134a..I put it in over 6 years ago and it will freeze you right out of the car. You have to buy the adapter for 134a if my memorey is correct. Great stuff.
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