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				Driveshaft/transmission questions (removing engine/transmission in 1984 300D W123
			 
			
			
			1) Since I'm just pulling the tranny with the motor, do I need to back off the driveshaft?  My life would be easier if I didn't have to.  
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
			![]() 2) What size are the bolts holding the driveshaft onto the transmission? How about the nuts on the transmission side? 3) Off-topic, but why not: what else do I need to do to remove my differential besides removing the driveshaft and the axles? Vstech, are you looking for rear axles?  
			
				
			
		
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			You'll want to take off the flex disc on the outlet put shaft of the trans.  It's held on by 6 bolts, one side is a large hex (8mm I think? And the other side a nut (17mm i think?  Going strictly off memory).  Flex disc on the white car is new so you'll want to use that one.  You'll need to rotate the driveshaft to get at all the bolts, so keep that in mind before you get it all jacked up and stationary. 
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
			You'll need: Tools: Torque wrench, 8, 13, 17, 19mm socket, 17mm wrench, 8mm Hex From the pp wiki  
			
				
			
		
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    If I back off the 41 and 46 mm nut on the driveshaft, could I turn the front half of the driveshaft with the rear wheels on the ground?I missed that when flicking through the Wiki, then... what is it under? Driveshaft center carrier replacement? 
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			It is possible to pull the engine with the trans together with the front drive shaft section still atached.  
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
			In other words.. Without disasebleing the front flex disk and only taking apart the drive shaft at the center. Maybe makes it a little more tricky to pull the engine/trans. You'll have to put it a steeper angle and the front piece of drive shaft will want to hang up a bit but it's doable. Saves just a bit of work I think. Taking apart the flex disk is not that difficult but just taking it apart at the center is much easier. 
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			Let me rephrase this: the driveshaft appears to be attached to the flex disc/transmission by three bolts.  Can I jut undo those and pull the transmission out without collapsing the driveshaft?
			
				
			
		 
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Having done this twice in the past couple of months, here's how I did it: 
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	- Pull ALL the bolts out of both ends (trans and differential) of the driveshaft (total of 6 bolts). As mentioned, you'll need to rotate the shaft so put your jack stands under the frame (I have a hoist so this isn't an issue). - Remove the center support crossmember - Make like a caveman and yank the assembly down at the center bearing - Use a prybar or big honkin' screwdriver and work one of the centering pins (front or rear) off the flex disc (mine were stuck). Watch out as that end of the shaft will fall. - Repeat prying the other pin off and the shaft will be on the floor. Depending on how tight the slip yoke is (mine were both pretty loose) you may need to back off the gland nut on the slip yoke. It's easier if the yoke will slide a bit. Worked for me. Dan  | 
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 You need the shaft to be collapsed a bit to get the ends of the prop shaft out of the yokes if you aren't removing either the differential or the transmission and engine in one go. 
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