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Old 10-01-2014, 07:41 PM
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DVR'd the episode last night. Finished it today, but won't spoil it. W123 did well for itself as expected.

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Old 10-02-2014, 09:02 PM
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I don't have cable television. Is there an online source to watch this episode on?
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Old 10-02-2014, 11:56 PM
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I don't have cable television. Is there an online source to watch this episode on?
Yes, freetv-video-online.me has the newest episodes of Top Gear USA.
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Old 10-03-2014, 02:17 PM
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I never liked the US version of the show. I my mind the problem is that the US team are all gear heads that may be goofy, but not funny.

The British team is made up of a journalist, a DJ, and a classical pianist. All communication specialists. English majors if you will, not scientists.
They all like cars, but they have little idea of how they work. Their approach and commentary are all from a layman's point of view, that is frequently very funny to us gear heads who know how this is going to turn out. Their British language idioms and understated observations also add to the humor on this side of the pond.
I could not understand why I disliked the USA version. Could it be that the U.S. hosts are silly and sometimes stupid? Well that would apply to the UK version, too.
Your comments help. For some reason I care about the UK hosts and I don't connect at all with the USA guys.
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SPOILER ALERT: My following post asks a question about the details of the episode. If you don't want to know anything that occurred in the episode before watching it, please don't read this.

Can anyone help me understand how the w123 ran for so long without a fan belt? I have never owned a w123, but I assume the fan belt drives the water pump. Without a water pump, I would think the water in the block would boil within a very short amount of time. They kept implying that as long as they had airflow to the radiator, the w123 would not overheat. But without a water pump, I would think it would overheat regardless of air flow over the radiator. Any thoughts?
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Old 10-04-2014, 09:36 AM
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There are many possible reasons, climate, condition, etc. There is a thread on this subject here. Basically, the airflow through the radiator, free wheels the fan, causing the waterpump to circulate coolant.

A lost fan belt and the decision to drive it home
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Old 10-04-2014, 10:11 AM
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were those 2nd gen w126 seats and steering wheel? did the honda get it's water pump belt cut? if not, that wasn't fair! i wonder why the engine died? maybe the IP lost good lubrication
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Old 10-04-2014, 11:14 AM
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were those 2nd gen w126 seats and steering wheel? did the honda get it's water pump belt cut? if not, that wasn't fair! i wonder why the engine died? maybe the IP lost good lubrication
I don't think a honda will run with the belt driving it's water pump cut... It's the timing belt on most Hondas...
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SPOILER ALERT: My following post asks a question about the details of the episode. If you don't want to know anything that occurred in the episode before watching it, please don't read this.

Can anyone help me understand how the w123 ran for so long without a fan belt? I have never owned a w123, but I assume the fan belt drives the water pump. Without a water pump, I would think the water in the block would boil within a very short amount of time. They kept implying that as long as they had airflow to the radiator, the w123 would not overheat. But without a water pump, I would think it would overheat regardless of air flow over the radiator. Any thoughts?

Coolant will circulate by thermosypon and a bit of fan windmilling (If the fan is attached to the water pump and not just a bearing block.) . This is where hot water rises ( through the upper hose ) and cold(er) water sinks ( as is passes through the rad.) The Ford model T didn't come with a water pump through it was a popular aftermarket add on.

A diesel at low load stays coldish because so much air is passing through the cylinders. ( This is also why idling a diesel leads to wet stacking .)

If this was done in England, it is cold and damp further assisting cooling.

However, at higher loads, more coolant flow is needed and the head needs to be pressurized to prevent nucleate boiling. The thermostat provides a restriction causing dynamic pressure to rise.

I do some work for a scrap yard when their guys get stuck working on a generator / electrical / major engine issue. One of the light towers would _occasionaly_ shut down but only when it was not windy ( they are on a plateu ) Turns out they changed fan the fan belt, didn't check the size of the old one. New belt was too long, adjuster topped out, fan / water pump would not spin with engine running. When it was windy, air would flow through the rad keeping temps below safety shutdown. They had 2 of the same units, the other one was turned 90* to prevailing winds and would shutdown after some run time regardless of wind speed.
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Old 10-04-2014, 07:48 PM
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I don't think a honda will run with the belt driving it's water pump cut... It's the timing belt on most Hondas...
Oooops, I forgot about that. Used to our engines too much haha
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Have a look at the thread I just started

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I could not understand why I disliked the USA version. Could it be that the U.S. hosts are silly and sometimes stupid? Well that would apply to the UK version, too.
Your comments help. For some reason I care about the UK hosts and I don't connect at all with the USA guys.
I love the UK version.

As far as I am concerned Tanner should be in jail for a very long time for all the stoooopid reckless things he has done on public roads.
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Old 10-09-2014, 12:23 AM
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were those 2nd gen w126 seats and steering wheel? did the honda get it's water pump belt cut? if not, that wasn't fair! i wonder why the engine died? maybe the IP lost good lubrication
Nope. Looked like early 90s leather seats from a W124. Only thing I could think of that would swap over without too much effort.

The US version is really cheesy and mediocre. I like UK, but they also have some crappy comedy from time to time. Overall, a lot better though.
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