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11-10-2016, 11:32 AM
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1985 Mercedes 300D Turbos
I have been searching the internet for a while now. My question that I have not found an answer to is:
Is there a difference in turbos between the california and the federal cars? I am wanting to get rid of the Oxi-trap on my california. I was hopeing that I could replace the exhaust and intake manifolds without having to get a new turbo. Is there any else I would need to do besides block off the egr? I have seen the Oxi-trap eliminator for sale, but I could switch the manifolds alot cheaper. 
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11-10-2016, 12:01 PM
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If you do swap turbos you've got to re-clock them.
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11-11-2016, 01:28 PM
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I got rid of the Trap and other junk on our 85 Kali quite a few years ago.
I just put on a used PNP turbo and has run good for a long time. From PNP the are around $60. I was going to clock mine, but some of the bolts were pretty rusty, so gave up on using it, and sold it to another guy that had a kali Kar. As Mach4 mentioned, clocking is a possibility. I`ll throw in here, you will be able to use your Kali starter after the swap. It has the solenoid on the bottom compared to the federal one, being on top. Look around for a set of 78/79 300SD manifolds, they didn`t have the EGR. 80 was the first year for that. . . . .
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there were three HP ratings on the OM616... 1) Not much power 2) Even less power 3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast. 80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works
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#4
11-11-2016, 02:29 PM
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I just cut a plug to fit in the chopped-off EGR tube and reattached the cut-off EGR tube-based plug to seal the manifold. Works fine. If you don't have welding equipment, any welding shop could do this for a few $$.
I've messed with the clocking on mine many times - no big deal. The first time, heat the bolt bosses and CAREFULLY move the retaining bolts - you'll feel them come loose. I have oxy-acetylene but propane might work for you. I used an end wrench and tapped on it with a mid-weight hammer once the bosses were hot and it worked fine. All you have to do is back off the bolts a little and you can turn the compressor body - there's no reason to remove the bolts. IF you can get the bolts out, coat liberally with anti-seize (I prefer the copper-based stuff) and they'll be movable for you from then on. Worked for me. Once I got the current turbo back from Tim's Turbos it, of course, was already loose and was a piece of cake to rotate. Dan Quote:
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11-12-2016, 03:09 PM
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11-12-2016, 03:32 PM
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PeachPartsWiki: Calf. to Fed. Emissions Conversion The oil drain pipe was not discussed thus my question above. If you are going to use the federal turbo, you will need the oil drain pipe too. The cali oil drain tube is longer i think.
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11-12-2016, 04:12 PM
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If you are going to Federal from Cali, you will basically need a donor engine for the needed parts. As it has been said already, you will need the manifolds, turbo, down pipe, oil feed tube, oil drain tube, and of course the air cleaner and bracket. Of course I am biased, but it is most likely a lot easier/cheaper, faster to install a bypass pipe.......Rich
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 All Diesel Fleet 1985 R107 300SLD TURBODIESEL 2005 E320 CDI (daily) LOTS of parts for sale! EGR block kit http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/355250-sale-egr-delete-block-off-plate-kit.html 1985 CA emissions 617 owners- You Need This! Sanden style A/C Compressor Mounting Kit for your 616/ 617 For Sale + Install Inst. Sanden Instalation Guide (post 11): http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/367883-sanden-retrofit-installation-guide.html
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11-12-2016, 04:22 PM
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11-12-2016, 04:55 PM
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I installed Rollguy's $15 EGR blockoff plates on both my 300D's.
If you go fed, you will need to adapt your 85 CA air filter. Not hard and your rubber intake is probably degraded by now anyway. Search for my post using a silicone 90 deg duct. I even put an 85 CA filter in my 84 because I prefer it. I also posted Wix filter PN's that work much cheaper than factory filter (now ~$50). But, unlike me, you will have to insert an oil drain stub in the turbo inlet. I used the oil drain stub in the upper oil pan of my engines (85 CA doesn't have). You could also use an oil capture can like many do. Before all that, ask why. Unlikely you still have the trap oxidizer since a free recall replaced with a catalytic converter (called something I forgot). Search for posts. If shiny, it is the latter. The cc doesn't appear to give much restriction. Mine looked fine, I just replaced my 85 CA engine because it failed.
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11-12-2016, 05:38 PM
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so, yes--- it has been done with the cali manifolds. any old AR turbo can replace the 85 cali one.
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