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Old 12-11-2017, 03:05 PM
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Rear end clunk during downshift?

It always happens when the car down shifts and is slowing down, I was wondering what could it be?

Diff mount? Diff bushings? Motor mounts? Also you can feel the transmission clunk a bit to when at slow or awkward shifts

There is also a harsh and sudden clunk when going into reverse, it pretty violent too.

I think I have a compounding problems with mounts and bushings.

Also when push comes to shove, what tools do I need for the corresponding jobs? These clunks are driving me crazy.

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Old 12-11-2017, 04:03 PM
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Slop in the driveline, probably the differential itself. Raise one of the rear wheels so it clears the ground, leave the tranny in park, grab the driveshaft and see if you have some rotational slop.
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Alright, will do that tomorrow morning.
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Alright, will do that tomorrow morning.
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i had this issue and it turned out they knocked out the vacuum line to the tranny during a valve adjustment.
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Old 12-13-2017, 05:43 PM
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Ok, it's slop in the driveline, the driveshaft has rotational play.

How do I fix it?
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How do I fix it?
Live with it until you can't bear it anymore, then buy or rebuild a differential. Making sure your vacuum system to the transmission modulator is *PERFECT* helps a lot.
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Live with it until you can't bear it anymore, then buy or rebuild a differential. Making sure your vacuum system to the transmission modulator is *PERFECT* helps a lot.
What parts are needed to rebuild it? Just curious.


Also, how can I replace all the vacuum lines? I don't know which lines.
How do I test the modulator? I have a vacuum gauge in hand.
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I think you just find if it holds a vacuum ,if it leaks then it needs replacing for the modulator .The rearends are common enough that you might find a good used one at a yard ,never had a rebuilt .I imagine if its coming apart ,new parts added ,going back with new mounting bushings by a mechanic ,$700. and a sandwich
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Tee into the black line going to the transmission modulator and go for a drive. At idle and not moving, you should have somewhere around 12-15" of vacuum going to the modulator. Under strong acceleration it should drop to ~5" and at WOT it should drop to 0". If you have good vacuum going to the modulator, there's not a lot you can do but live with it. Rebuilding a differential is not for the faint of heart, it would be a lot easier to source a replacement or have yours rebuilt professionally, especially if the gears are worn.
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Heres a good link to possible answer some differential issues.differentials, gear-ratios and compatibility | Mercedes-Benz turbo
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Old 12-13-2017, 09:42 PM
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Well that's a hard pill to swallow, thanks guys.
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We get alot of miles on the parts that the factory installed orig., They can still give some miles if babied.The noise of old age, we also will become much like our cars ,old farts.
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Well that's a hard pill to swallow, thanks guys.
So long as the rear end isn't growling or vibrating, you still have a lot of life left in it. Keep up with the oil changes and let it ride.
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hmm, the clunking might be a lot of different things.
axleshafts, driveshaft or differential, on one occasion a gearbox.

on a w114 with sort of the same issue as you describe it was the differential,
Montefeller’s w114 280CE – 3.69 to 3.07 differential swap | Mercedes-Benz turbo

the thread has video of both diff mounted and play found without dissembling anything, aswell as the second video of what was the issue. Seen that on multiple differentials.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W3629vkI5k

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