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OM606 still Nailing and I'm stumped.....
Well I have a 1999 E300D, and it is persistent at nailing. The injectors are rebuild with Bosio Nozzles, new head shields, torqued to spec. Just replaced the delivery valve seals and copper washers with no change. Ran diesel purge and it was damn near scilent! As soon it was back in the diesel it nailed again. I have seen another thread about the delivery valves themselves being bad. Does anybody know the part number for them? (The delivery valves are the actual threaded items that the vinton seal goes on correct? Or is it the item that gets the copper washer in the pump?) The only other thing I can think of is a bad injector, because greazzer said 3 of them were practically seized together. Maybe they are failing internally? Jone of them leak. Thanks in advance!
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Thanks! I'm pretty good with finding everything part number wise on the car, but the IP is hard to find internals for. The delivery valve older is the item I'm looking for then!
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Check your fuel pressure to the pump.
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I wouldn't really worry if the car runs fine..
The delivery valve springs are probably worn out causing the nailing.
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I had ordered springs but the ones that came in were much shorter. I assumed the ones for the 603 were the same. The nailing is just so loud I can hardly place an order at a drive thru without turning the car off haha. It clears up past 1300 rpm
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different pump, different springs. order them from MB. The pumps are internally different I believe the 606 has large delivery valves by half a MM
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Does anyone know the part number for the DV itself? The spring was at least 2 mm taller and double the diameter compared to 603 spring
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I had a persistent nailing problem with my '97 606. One day I decided to remove the plastic cover and run it so I could use a stethoscope to find which injector was causing the problem. With the cover removed I started it up, and had no nailing. It has been nearly a year now and no nailing, and no cover.
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Kyle,
You don't want the DV holder, you want the DV, which is probably a small barrel with a plunger. The copper sealing washer goes under the barrel, the plunger goes in the barrel, and the spring pushes the plunger down into the barrel. There are two places that I know of where the DV assembly goes bad. The bottom of the barrel can get scored or otherwise damaged (usually a human-caused issue) and the seat where the plunger fits the barrel can get worn and rough (this is more likely the case when bad fuel with water is used). If you take apart the DVs again, you can check out both ends of the barrel. Note that you will need new copper washers and O-rings for each DV. Source for parts: These things very rarely wear out, so if you can find a used injection pump you can probably re-use the DVs. Check with a Bosch shop that services injection pumps, they can probably order new DVs for you. Maybe contact Myna or one of the other IP super-tuning places in Europe to see if they'll sell you some old DVs.
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Just as a datapoint, I'm still running the DVs I polished when I wrote that up last year. The only time I ever have any nailing is when I have lousy fuel. I run straight pump diesel with BioBor JF as my only additive after I got diesel bug earlier this year from aforementioned crappy diesel.
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That's great news to hear! The diesel out here in AZ is absolutely awful, I get better diesel from CA. Fortunately I found some Standyne at my local tractor supply so I'll give that a try. Wish we had B20 out here!
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Retail Map - Biodiesel.org
Select location (AZ) then "Show state". The only thing I'd add to Diseasel300's method would be to use a drill press instead of a hand drill. It gives you better control and is easier on your arms.
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Thanks for the link! On another completely separate note, I have no averaged 21 mpg on 3 thanks. Mostly highway and sub urban driving. Slightly un impressed to say the least. I know that the numbers MB came out with were high but I feel I'm way below that.
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