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Old 12-06-2019, 09:50 AM
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is 2016 GLE 300d-- improved over ML diesels?

I was never impressed with the M class SUV diesels

Is the 2016 GLE 300d- much better?

any first hand experience?

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Old 12-06-2019, 11:00 AM
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Is that the ugly curvy roof bull**** thing?
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Old 12-06-2019, 01:33 PM
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I will say the 4 cylinder om651 is better compared to the om642, however you still have all the adblue system, nox sensors, soot sensor, scrs and dpf issues that come with modern diesels. Very rarely do you see any issues with the 651 motor, maybe a leaky water pump, cracked charge air pipe, but nothing at all like the 642's.
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Old 12-07-2019, 08:07 AM
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This is the W166 platform with the new badging destination for SUVs. Where everything starts with a G.
It is the same body as the 2012-2015 ML series. They changed up the exterior bits and updated the stereo to the ‘iPad stuck to the dash’ style.

And replaced the OM642 V6 with the OM651 4 cylinder twin turbo.

Yes it still has all the pollution control stuff.

We have both a 2008 W164 and a 2014 W166 and the 166 is much improved from the 164 in build quality and fit and finish. The 163s (original ML from late 90s) are downright crude in comparison.

W166 has a W212 style interior.
W164 has a W211 style interior.
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Old 12-07-2019, 09:41 AM
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This is the W166 platform with the new badging destination for SUVs. Where everything starts with a G.
It is the same body as the 2012-2015 ML series. They changed up the exterior bits and updated the stereo to the ‘iPad stuck to the dash’ style.

And replaced the OM642 V6 with the OM651 4 cylinder twin turbo.

Yes it still has all the pollution control stuff.

We have both a 2008 W164 and a 2014 W166 and the 166 is much improved from the 164 in build quality and fit and finish. The 163s (original ML from late 90s) are downright crude in comparison.

W166 has a W212 style interior.
W164 has a W211 style interior.
If one did a DPF/Delete... and eliminated ALL the clean diesel stuff/sensors/etc.... (for Off Roading - of course)

would that GLE 300d-- be a pretty Long lasting/trouble free vehicle???
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Old 12-09-2019, 09:11 AM
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Is that the ugly curvy roof bull**** thing?
The new order of MB SUVs:
GLA = subminiature vehicle based on the A class sedans. This is also being brand labeled as an Infiniti, gotten these for rental cars before. Wants to be a real MB when it grows up. I’m 6’3 and wife is 5’3 and she complained about the lack of head room.
GLC = tolerable mini SUV. These based on C class sedans. Think Honda CR-V with leather seats. Has most of the luxury features of the big boys in a small package. Back seat unusable for big/tall adults. Evolution of the previous GLK mini from late 2000s.
GLE = the evolution of the classic ML platform. New design released for MY2019. Never drove the new one but have driven/owned the previous 3, see previous comments above.
GLS = the original GL that was introduced along the W164 ML, identical except for being a 7 seat.

And the grand daddy that goes by just G which is the classic G-wagen dating back to the 70s. Newly refreshed with the S class interior bits so you would be terrified to take it anywhere with dirt after paying well north of $100k for it.
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The OM 642/722.9 powered family
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2014 ML350 Bluetec (wife's DD)
2013 E350 Bluetec (my DD)

both my kids cars went to junkyard in 2023
2008 ML320 CDI (Older son’s DD) fatal transmission failure, water soaked/fried rear SAM, numerous other issues, just too far gone to save (165k miles)
2008 E320 Bluetec (Younger son's DD) injector failed open and diluted oil with diesel, spun main bearings (240k miles)

1998 E300DT sold to TimFreeh
1987 300TD sold to vstech
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Old 12-09-2019, 09:27 AM
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If one did a DPF/Delete... and eliminated ALL the clean diesel stuff/sensors/etc.... (for Off Roading - of course)

would that GLE 300d-- be a pretty Long lasting/trouble free vehicle???
Got our 2014 ML350 (W166 platform same as the 2016 GLE) in the spring of 2017 as a CPO.

We got it with 50k miles and now have 70k. So far everything good. I did have an emissions sensor issue, that was replaced under CPO warranty.

After we got it there was a clunk on deceleration that was traced to the exhaust system. They kept it a month (hence my experience with the GLC) and did a total exhaust replacement.

Moral of the story, take the 2 year buy up option on the CPO, this will give you 3 years/unlimited miles. Warranty start is original in service date so a 2016 should have at least a year of the original 4/50 warranty effective (as of Dec. 2019). CPO offers a 1 year/unlimited extension that starts when factory warranty ends. If you take the buy up (about $3k adder) you have a 3 year factory backed warranty with unlimited miles on top of the remaining warranty.

The CPO warranty covers all systems and of course the power train. It does exclude anything that is strictly cosmetic - I had a seat trim with a broken tab flapping around that they would not cover. Fixed it with a strategically drilled hole and a zip tie.

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The OM 642/722.9 powered family
Still going strong
2014 ML350 Bluetec (wife's DD)
2013 E350 Bluetec (my DD)

both my kids cars went to junkyard in 2023
2008 ML320 CDI (Older son’s DD) fatal transmission failure, water soaked/fried rear SAM, numerous other issues, just too far gone to save (165k miles)
2008 E320 Bluetec (Younger son's DD) injector failed open and diluted oil with diesel, spun main bearings (240k miles)

1998 E300DT sold to TimFreeh
1987 300TD sold to vstech
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