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After a couple of hours at Willow Springs Raceway, I have gone on the quest for a more neutral handling W124 wagon, by reducing understeer.
As with all things, suspension changes are like equations. A change ANYWHERE changes things everywhere. Currently I'm running H&R Springs front & rear for the 300TE; Bilstein Sport dampers front; SportLine front swaybar; and the stock self-levelling in the rear. The H&R springs are great for the track, but too low for the street IF you have aggressive spoilers (Brabus) like I do. The Bilstein Sport dampers combined with the H&R springs in the front ride like a BMW M3, and the SportLine front swaybar reduces lean considerably. However, with the stock rear swaybar, the balance has shifted to more understeer. For reference, here are some swaybar measurements I have gleaned from both personal experience and other enthusiasts. All measurements are in millimeters: 300E Stock (F/R): 26.7 / 15.0 Delta: 11.7 Slight Under 300TE Stock: 22.5 / 10.0 Delta: 12.5 Understeer SportLine: 27.5 / 17.0 Delta: 10.5 Neutral/Under Eibach: 28.0 / 17.0 Delta: 11.0 Slight Under 500E Stock: 27.5 / 15.0 Delta: 12.5 Understeer Delsing Motorsport: 31.75/ 22.2 Delta: 09.55 Neutral My Wagon: 27.5 / 10.0 Delta: 17.5 Heavy Under My goal is to get to a delta between 9.55 and 10.5, with the Sportline front swaybar. Now if I can only find a 17-18mm rear swaybar that fits the self-levelling suspension of the 300TE/500E . . . |
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Ke6dcj
Hey, I got H&R springs on my W124 too. I didn't use bilstein but Koni (sports)yellow for adjustability. Yeah, I think the H&R springs are a bit too low for street use without a front kit. You seem to have excellent knowledge regarding W124 suspension turning. I have some suspension question and I hope really you could help me. Do you think is possible to use a thicker spring pad at the front to raise the car a little bit ? Do you know the OEM spring pad size ? In your opinion, which sway bar is better for a 93 300E ? The little thicker Eibach or the OEM Sportline ? What sizes are your tires ? I use 17" 215/45 How you set your alignment config ? ***** The Bilstein Sport dampers combined with the H&R springs in the front ride like a BMW M3****** Forgive my ignorance , what do you meant by "ride" ? Does it handles like a M3 or the ride quality ( comfort ) is like the M3 ? E 36 or E 26 ?? For the sway bars, try contact Randy in http://www.epsparts.com They sell bars for Mercedes, they might be able to help. Thank you very much for your time. Your help will be greatly appreciated. Pete regards |
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