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Old 09-10-2005, 04:41 AM
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I slept through a movie earlier but I'm still feeling loopy. 'til tomorrow then....

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Old 09-10-2005, 10:16 AM
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Got one for you right now. SF Chron columnist, very conservative, had a column a week or so ago called "A Flood of Bush Bashing." Any criticism of Dubya is Bush Bashing to Ms. Saunders. At one point she said:

"Columnist Molly Ivins criticized Bush for cutting $71 million from the New Orleans Corps of Engineers -- even though the levee that broke had just been upgraded."

This is not slandering anyone but it is the kind of innacuracies she uses all the time to try to bolster her point. Indeed the levy had been repaired, but I've read several accounts that say it was repaired in a low budget, slip-shod fashion without reinforcement of steel or concrete that would have made it much stronger. If this is the case, Ivins' point was accurate and Saunders was spinning.

Saunders entire column can be found at:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/09/02/EDGLIEG9SR1.DTL
no comparision.

Particularly when you consider the liberal writers were SLANDERING a persons reputation, a much harder fix to repair than what the lady wrote. Besides, he info was accurate, it MAY have been spun a bit, they all do that some, but what was shown earlier against your guys was full blown, out and out falsehoods. And repeated and repeated by others.

The fact it took you that long to come up with something as shoddy as you did, and by a columnist I think most, if not all of us have never heard of PROVES MY POINT !!!

Now, about that batting average of yours, me thinks you need to go to the batting cages....
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Old 09-10-2005, 06:09 PM
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that depends..

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Originally Posted by TimFreeh
Equal time - or as you liberals like to call it the "fairness doctrine"
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Hi Tim,

The "fairness doctrine" only applies if you agree with them.
If you don't you are selfish and uncaring, deeply in need of counselling, a biggot, homophobe,
a bumbling lower class hick, a mysogynist a self-appointed brainwashed follower of the
people who stole the last two elections..

Try making a comeback to finish your point after trying to defend against all that.
Chances are, you will have to pull out the big gun and tell them that they are no different than the
leaders who lost the last two elections.... bitter and desperate.
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Old 09-11-2005, 01:22 AM
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no comparision.

Particularly when you consider the liberal writers were SLANDERING a persons reputation, a much harder fix to repair than what the lady wrote. Besides, he info was accurate, it MAY have been spun a bit, they all do that some, but what was shown earlier against your guys was full blown, out and out falsehoods. And repeated and repeated by others.

The fact it took you that long to come up with something as shoddy as you did, and by a columnist I think most, if not all of us have never heard of PROVES MY POINT !!!

Now, about that batting average of yours, me thinks you need to go to the batting cages....
Dude, dude, be patient. That was the first one I could think of off hand. When I listen to Rush, Sean, Glenn Beck, I hear something every 5 minutes that is slanted, spun, generally full o' bull.

As far as your not having heard of the esteemed ultra-right Ms. Saunders, she appears on FOX and MSNBC now and then, she's been printed in Time or Newsweek, I forget. As far as "that long," I typed that a minute after I read the post that inspired it.

Luvrpgrl, I'm liking you better all the time, but you have this dogged assurance that you and your crowd are correct, always, and that the "other" side are devious slanderers, always. It ain't that simple, and I'll attempt to prove that in my own time, thank you very much.
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Old 09-11-2005, 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Ron (Canada)
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Hi Tim,

The "fairness doctrine" only applies if you agree with them.
If you don't you are selfish and uncaring, deeply in need of counselling, a biggot, homophobe,
a bumbling lower class hick, a mysogynist a self-appointed brainwashed follower of the
people who stole the last two elections..

Try making a comeback to finish your point after trying to defend against all that.
Chances are, you will have to pull out the big gun and tell them that they are no different than the
leaders who lost the last two elections.... bitter and desperate.
Oh my, two alums of the same charm school. I don't know exactly how this thing got so full of vitriol, but I have a feeling it has something to do with a phenomenon called Rush and Sean.

I'm not sure if you guys will even actually consider the evidence I could submit that indicates their propagandizing, I doubt you'd believe it if it was delivered intervenously. You can lead a horse to water....

I've seen that sort of thing already here. I try to say, watch this or that film, read this or that, and then we can save a lot of time in discussing something. However, all the self assured manly guys who spout the kind of baseball bat rhetoric seen above can't be bothered -- worried that liberal loser dust might rub off on them.

Whooo -EEEEE!!! Tha's a baaaadddd M**********R Jack!

Oh, am I being charm-challenged now?? I tend to act that way when I've just had dog turds thrown in my general direction.

Speaking of tolerance for other points of view, that the left just doesn't seem to be able to do, AirAmerica has what 2 to 5% of the listernship of Rush and the boys and the righties can't wait to dismiss them as a bunch of jerks.
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Old 09-11-2005, 02:04 AM
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I've always been a registered independant, when you find out who my party overseers are please let me know.
C'mon dude, you knew I was joking, right?
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Old 09-11-2005, 02:52 AM
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FEBRUARY 08, 2005
GOOD NEWS, A MEDIA ALERT, AND A LAMENT

Earlier this afternoon, Bill Moyers called James Watt and "apologized profusely" for misquoting him and misrepresenting his views on the environment. Moyers says he will produce a written apology and think about ways to make the apology as public as the smear was. Congratulations, Mr. Watt.

Found at:

http://powerlineblog.com/archives/009498.php

Here’s a brief biography of Watt, from Wikipedia:

James G. Watt

James Gaius Watt (born January 31, 1938) served as U.S. Secretary of the Interior under President Ronald Reagan from 1981 to 1983.

He is remembered chiefly for his hostility to environmentalism and his support of the development and use of federal lands by foresting, ranching, and other commercial interests. He was made to resign as a result of a controversy that arose because he told an ethnic joke.

In 1995, Watt was indicted on 18 counts of felony perjury and obstruction of justice by a federal grand jury. The indictments were due to false statements made to a grand jury investigating influence peddling at the Department of Housing and Urban Development where he had been a lobbyist in the mid to late 1980s. On January 2, 1996, as part of a plea bargain, Watt pled guilty to a misdemeanor count of withholding documents from a federal grand jury. On March 12, 1996 he was sentenced to 5 years probation and forced to pay a $5000 fine and perform 500 hours of community service.

(http://www.cnn.com/US/Newsbriefs/9603/03-12/index.html)

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"That is the delicate balance the Secretary of the Interior must have: to be steward for the natural resources for this generation as well as future generations. I do not know how many future generations we can count on before the Lord returns; whatever it is we have to manage with a skill to leave the resources needed for future generations." -- James G. Watt, testimony before the House Interior Committee, February 1981

"My responsibility is to follow the Scriptures which call upon us to occupy the land until Jesus returns." -- James G. Watt, The Washington Post, May 24, 1981

"I never use the words Democrats and Republicans. It's liberals and Americans." -- James G. Watt, 1982

"We have every mixture you can have. I have a black, a woman, two Jews and a cripple. And we have talent." -- James G. Watt, describing his staff to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce on September 21, 1983; this comment led directly to his forced resignation;
quoted from Bartlett's Online

Here’s a piece describing some of his protégé, current Int. Sec Norton’s work on the Klamath River:

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2003/05/ma_366_01.htm

Reports indicate that the potato and alfalfa growers who now use enough water to regularly imperil and mass kill salmon in the river are, by and large, Republican supporters of Bush, whereas the Indians and varn-mentalists who have the silly notion that growing water intensive crops in a desert is not more important than having a healthy, economically lucrative wild salmon population continue as it has for millennia, are either democrats, hippies, or injuns, i.e., end of discussion.

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