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cmac2012 03-10-2006 04:04 AM

It's finally happened: Bill O'Reilly has gone off the deep end
 
Careful what you say if'n you get on Bill's radio show. Say anything untoward or obscene, and you just might get a visit from FOX Security. :inquisiti

http://mediamatters.org/items/200603030010

Bill O's career: :toilet:

Snibble 03-10-2006 06:43 AM

What a pussy.:rolleyes:

The caller didn't give any signs in the few words he said that he is going to be "untoward and obscene". Billy Boy's got issues. If I were to be threatened by "Fox's security staff"... I'd be laughing my ass off. What are they going to do, spam me wih conservative right wing junk?:rolleyes:

Botnst 03-10-2006 07:22 AM

Believe that will have a negative effect on his ratings?

Dream on.

Shows like that thrive on publicity, good or bad. No publicity is what hurts them. By posting his name you are part of the cabal keeping him rich and in the driver's seat.

B

WVOtoGO 03-10-2006 10:22 AM

What was he think'n ??
 
You both got that right.

"Billy Boy" has got some issues. But the rest of us have remotes.

There’s not a damn thing Fox security can do to a caller, even if they were to get obscene. The broadcast is Fox’s responsibility. Releasing any information on the caller without their consent will only bring the lawyers into the picture, and not to the benefit of Fox.

Publicity. Bot’s dead on there. It’s no publicity that kills these guys. Even folks that hate where Bill stands will watch for the simple entertainment value of what he may do/say next. BS or not.

Remember - You’ve got the remote.

GermanStar 03-10-2006 10:27 AM

You mean he's been reasonably sane and stable up until now?

koop 03-10-2006 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Botnst
Believe that will have a negative effect on his ratings?

Dream on.

Shows like that thrive on publicity, good or bad. No publicity is what hurts them. By posting his name you are part of the cabal keeping him rich and in the driver's seat.

B

I disagree on the publicity. The morons that watch and spout his drivel like it's gospel need to know that their shaman is an idiot. I don't want his ilk squelched through disinterest, I want the idiocy brought out to the public light and ridiculed. I hope the guy gets a 100 share and 99% of the people watching recognize him for the liar and moron he is.

Botnst 03-10-2006 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koop
I disagree on the publicity. The morons that watch and spout his drivel like it's gospel need to know that their shaman is an idiot. I don't want his ilk squelched through disinterest, I want the idiocy brought out to the public light and ridiculed. I hope the guy gets a 100 share and 99% of the people watching recognize him for the liar and moron he is.

You maybe right. I certainly wouldn't argue that anybody should not express their opinions if they want to do so.

Would you suppose that the opinions of leftie-Americans would have a moderating impact on the Limbaughists and O'Reillyites? I think it probably does more to support their paranoid belief in a Vast leftwing Conspiracy. As long as they get positive feedback in that belief they will exhibit the 'heard' instinct.

John Doe 03-10-2006 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koop
I disagree on the publicity. The morons that watch and spout his drivel like it's gospel need to know that their shaman is an idiot. I don't want his ilk squelched through disinterest, I want the idiocy brought out to the public light and ridiculed. I hope the guy gets a 100 share and 99% of the people watching recognize him for the liar and moron he is.

That tack hasn't worked with Rush, why would it with OReilly? I'll choose to ignore.

boneheaddoctor 03-10-2006 01:11 PM

Yeah...more left wing ranting against a conservative show host. Like thats new. Since those same people still argue Rathergate wast true even in the total absense of any facts.


The New DNC moto " Why let the facts get in the way of a story"

oasis100 03-10-2006 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor
Yeah...more left wing ranting against a conservative show host. Like thats new. Since those same people still argue Rathergate wast true even in the total absense of any facts.


The New DNC moto " Why let the facts get in the way of a story"

Yea, and too bad you still think his show is fair and balanced..i bet you enjoy entering his no spin zone.

Hatterasguy 03-10-2006 01:20 PM

So what the caller was a jerk and got called on it. Last I check The Factor beats all the other shows in ratings by a huge margin.

Good show, just because you don't agree with a point of view don't be little it. Besides you liberals have NPR.

oasis100 03-10-2006 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy
So what the caller was a jerk and got called on it. Last I check The Factor beats all the other shows in ratings by a huge margin.

Good show, just because you don't agree with a point of view don't be little it. Besides you liberals have NPR.

When did I say the show wasn't good? I'm questioning the no spin zone claims and it's balanced views.

boneheaddoctor 03-10-2006 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by oasis100
Yea, and too bad you still think his show is fair and balanced..i bet you enjoy entering his no spin zone.

look at who you rally behind......the most left leaning bunch of biased liars on the air...CBS.

Hatterasguy 03-10-2006 01:45 PM

Well in that case I would say it is pretty centered with a slight right tilt. I think his show is so popular because a lot of Americans agree with his views.

For example he isn't pro death penalty. Wants a good guest worker program for Mexicans to.

You can't really say he is right wing.

GermanStar 03-10-2006 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatterasguy
Well in that case I would say it is pretty centered with a slight right tilt. I think his show is so popular because a lot of Americans agree with his views.

For example he isn't pro death penalty. Wants a good guest worker program for Mexicans to.

You can't really say he is right wing.

No, he's just another hater. Nothin' sells these days like some good old fashioned hate.

boneheaddoctor 03-10-2006 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by oasis100
When did I say the show wasn't good? I'm questioning the no spin zone claims and it's balanced views.

I've never seen anyone prove any of the left leaning press is in the least bit fair and unbiased....they don't becasue they can't.

So the left has to whine and complain about not having an uncontested monopoly in spreading their bias like they used to have.

Hatterasguy 03-10-2006 02:05 PM

Can't really see where he hates? I watch his show a few times a week and really don't notice to much bias one way or another. Lots of times he has people on his show that represent both sides. That seems pretty fair to me, as long as both sides are their I'd call that balanced.

He does attack the far left a lot though, I suspect a lot of those attacks come from them.

If you compare him to say John Stewarts show then you can see the difference. Although the daily show is funny as can be!:D The Daily show has a somewhat of a left tilt, but they do make fun of a lot of people on the left as well.

GermanStar 03-10-2006 02:16 PM

All these guys are haters. The right slant shows are geared toward getting the right to hate the left. The left slant shows have the opposite goal. How about the shows that are about mending fences and bringing people together? Oh yeah, there aren't any, cause they'd be boring as hell, right? The shows that hold an audience promote derision and divisiveness. I'll be honest -- I haven't seen an iota of O'Reilly in quite a while, but I recall that his shows seemed to be largely about what he doesn't, rather than does like.

Botnst 03-10-2006 02:24 PM

The right/left thing is way too simplistic.

To some people I'm far right because of my ardent support for deposing Saddam. But then, I'm not enamoured of Bush & co's ineptitude and vacillation.

To some I'm far left because I believe in equal rights for all, regardless of gender pref, too.

To some I'm far right because of my ardent belief in free trade.

To some I'm far left because of my support of abortion on demand.

To some I'm far left because of my (admittedly tepid) support of Affirmative Action.

To some I'm far left because I believe that public education is absolutely and fundamentally necessary to instill a common love of democracy and freedom in our children. I do not trust elitist schools and religious schools to do that.

To some I'm far right because of my disdain for SSI and Medicare.

To some I'm far left because of my dislike and distrust of monopolies and perpetual trusts.

etc.

I'm betting most of us are like that, tracing the path of a drunken snake between and among issues.

B

oasis100 03-10-2006 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor
look at who you rally behind......the most left leaning bunch of biased liars on the air...CBS.

YO WTF?!
I don't even watch CBS.
I watch ABC, but that's because LOST is on ABC. That's about it...I watch CNN news sometimes, are they a left leaning bunch of liars?

I am a big fan of Bill Maher though.

oasis100 03-10-2006 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor
I've never seen anyone prove any of the left leaning press is in the least bit fair and unbiased....they don't becasue they can't.

So the left has to whine and complain about not having an uncontested monopoly in spreading their bias like they used to have.

WTF are you saying? You think I really care that much what american news networks do?? I don't even watch that. However, I've watched the factor numerous times, and anyone can tell that show is clearly biased. I just want you to admit that.

GermanStar 03-10-2006 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oasis100
I watch CNN news sometimes, are they a left leaning bunch of liars?

Uh oh -- brace yourself. :D

oasis100 03-10-2006 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatterasguy
Can't really see where he hates? I watch his show a few times a week and really don't notice to much bias one way or another. Lots of times he has people on his show that represent both sides. That seems pretty fair to me, as long as both sides are their I'd call that balanced.

He does attack the far left a lot though, I suspect a lot of those attacks come from them.

If you compare him to say John Stewarts show then you can see the difference. Although the daily show is funny as can be!:D The Daily show has a somewhat of a left tilt, but they do make fun of a lot of people on the left as well.

Hard to compare to Jon Stewart, his show is on the COMEDY network. Unless you want to consider O'Reilly a comedian.

boneheaddoctor 03-10-2006 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oasis100
YO WTF?!
I don't even watch CBS.
I watch ABC, but that's because LOST is on ABC. That's about it...I watch CNN news sometimes, are they a left leaning bunch of liars?

I am a big fan of Bill Maher though.

CNN is almost as bad as CBS.....and thats pretty bad...all you had to do is sit back and watch them parrot NYT , the Post, CBS and NPR.....They don't have the common nickname Clinton News Network for nothing.

cmac2012 03-11-2006 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor
Yeah...more left wing ranting against a conservative show host. Like thats new. Since those same people still argue Rathergate wast true even in the total absense of any facts.


The New DNC moto " Why let the facts get in the way of a story"

Spending time on the river "DENIAL" again, eh? First of all, I don't argue that Rathergate was true, merely that it dovetailed with a lot of known information and so made the temptation to run with the story too great for the opportunists (part of the job description) who produce 60 Minutes' stories.

The facts are this doctor: Bill O thinks that people who call into his show, which solicits callers expressing opinions, had better toe the line of his code of conduct else be subject to legal action and or thugs "paying them a visit." The guy who prompted Bill's tipping his hand as to the true level of his meglomania called into to say he appreciated Keith Olbermann's show and disagreed with Bill's campaign to get KO fired.

So tell me, what facts are the DNC folks ignoring here?

cmac2012 03-11-2006 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatterasguy
So what the caller was a jerk and got called on it. Last I check The Factor beats all the other shows in ratings by a huge margin.

Good show, just because you don't agree with a point of view don't be little it. Besides you liberals have NPR.

Bill O is not a complete idiot, just a complete *********.

In what way was the caller a jerk? He likes Olbermann's show as do I. Bill O is upset cause KO frequently taps him as "The Worst Person in the World" in his nightly lineup of examples of behavior that KO and crew find unsavory. What, Bill O doesn't call people on behavior HE disapproves of?

So Bill mounts his campaign to get KO fired. The caller wished to express a dissenting opinon. For this "FOX Security" (!?!) is going to pay him a visit??!??

cmac2012 03-11-2006 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Botnst
The right/left thing is way too simplistic.

To some people I'm far right because of my ardent support for deposing Saddam. But then, I'm not enamoured of Bush & co's ineptitude and vacillation.

To some I'm far left because I believe in equal rights for all, regardless of gender pref, too.

To some I'm far right because of my ardent belief in free trade.

To some I'm far left because of my support of abortion on demand.

To some I'm far left because of my (admittedly tepid) support of Affirmative Action.

To some I'm far left because I believe that public education is absolutely and fundamentally necessary to instill a common love of democracy and freedom in our children. I do not trust elitist schools and religious schools to do that.

To some I'm far right because of my disdain for SSI and Medicare.

To some I'm far left because of my dislike and distrust of monopolies and perpetual trusts.

etc.

I'm betting most of us are like that, tracing the path of a drunken snake between and among issues.

The voice of reason. I absolutely agree. Lining up on one somewhat imaginary side or the other and heaving brickbats at the other side is not the same thing as rational thought.

peragro 03-11-2006 12:33 AM

Who is "Olberman"? And what is "MSNBC"?

cmac2012 03-11-2006 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by peragro
Who is "Olberman"? And what is "MSNBC"?

What, a news hound like you asking this question absent tongue in cheek??

Assuming it's a serious question, Keith Olbermann is a former FOX employee, sports, I believe, who has had a show on cable news channel MSNBC for close to 3 years now. I just learned the last tidbit from watching a video of Olbermann's first response to the story. Available at:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/03/03.html#a7384

It contains Bill O's ominous threat that the caller he disapproved of would be receiving a visit from "FOX Security" because as Bill stated, "we have your number." :eek: (de-de-de-de...[Twilight Zone theme song])

I like Olbermann's show "Countdown with KO." He's got a bit of the charm and humor of Jon Stewart but is more sober and has a bunch of serious news as well. Something tells me the guy's news career has got legs.

I happened to see his show Thurs. night (3-9, after the one linked above) and he included a bit from Al Franken's radio show about the few, the proud, who make it onto FOX SECURITY.

peragro 03-11-2006 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012
What, a news hound like you asking this question absent tongue in cheek??

Dude, for about the gazillionth time, you watch way more Foxnews, CNN, PBS, (insert initials here), etc... than do I. It's essentially the same thing, regardless of the intials.

cmac2012 03-11-2006 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by peragro
Dude, for about the gazillionth time, you watch way more Foxnews, CNN, PBS, (insert initials here), etc... than do I. It's essentially the same thing, regardless of the intials.

The gazillionth time? I'm trying to think if you've said that before.

Olbermann's show is somewhat unlike anything you'll find on FOX. Some of the MSNBC stuff is about as tired as everything else. Chris Mathews is bright but damn the guy is rude. A legend in his own mind. Joe Scarborough is more honest than many conservative pundits but some of his views are way ill-conceived. IMHO, of course.

PBS is so far out in front of FOX and CNN in terms of probity and originality, it's hard to quantify.

Palangi 03-11-2006 11:00 AM

I have a simple solution to your problems with O'Reilly.

Change the channel.

So simple I am surprised you haven't thought of it.:rolleyes:

boneheaddoctor 03-11-2006 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmac2012

PBS is so far out in front of FOX and CNN in terms of probity and originality, it's hard to quantify.

And you actually managed to write this with a straight face? DO you believe everything in STAR and National Enquirer too?

cmac2012 03-11-2006 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor
And you actually managed to write this with a straight face? DO you believe everything in STAR and National Enquirer too?

Coming from you, a charter member of the Hatfield/McCoy feud, who doesn't watch PBS, it's hard to take it seriously.

Check out some of the Frontlines pieces on PBS. They're not bad.

cmac2012 03-11-2006 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Palangi
I have a simple solution to your problems with O'Reilly.

Change the channel.

So simple I am surprised you haven't thought of it.:rolleyes:

Whether I ever watch his show or not does not change the fact that O'Reilly is one of the leading propagandists on a network that has virtually devoted itself to Bush and the Repubs in general.

O'Reilly's behavior in this is a chillingly precise metaphor for our foreign policy in the U.S. We have run roughshod over various nations for about 60 years and this is OK and called for but when we even feel threatened by another country, it's time for all out attack.

Bill demonstrated his whacko-ness in spades on this one, and the bankruptcy of the supremacist mindset in general.

Palangi 03-11-2006 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmac2012
Whether I ever watch his show or not does not change the fact that O'Reilly is one of the leading propagandists on a network that has virtually devoted itself to Bush and the Repubs in general.

O'Reilly's behavior in this is a chillingly precise metaphor for our foreign policy in the U.S. We have run roughshod over various nations for about 60 years and this is OK and called for but when we even feel threatened by another country, it's time for all out attack.

Bill demonstrated his whacko-ness in spades on this one, and the bankruptcy of the supremacist mindset in general.

I agree, he is a whacko. That's why I change the channel whenever I see him.

There are a lot of blowhard whacko gassbags on radio and tv, Rash Limburger, Al Farken, Michael Moore, etc. Whenever I see one of these 5hitheads, I simply pick up the clicker and change the channel. Makes me feel so much better!! :)


As for your daily Hate America First rant, I can only say...... Dood, your record is stuck.:1blank:

boneheaddoctor 03-11-2006 06:03 PM

Liberals have no business talking about propaganda.....anything a liberal utters these days is a bold faced lie....

And the bold faced liars at CBS have been caught doing it...the NYT have been caught doing it....the Washington post has been caught doing it.

NPR will be next.

Hatterasguy 03-11-2006 06:08 PM

The NYT and LAT are pretty biased papers. It has gotten bad. Would it kill them to run one positive story about Bush or the war? So far the WSJ seems to be the only decent major paper left.

The whole point of O'Reilly's show is to confront people, its an op ed show not hard news. Ratings are king and that style of show produces good ratings.

Honus 03-11-2006 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy
The NYT and LAT are pretty biased papers. It has gotten bad. Would it kill them to run one positive story about Bush or the war?...

I don't know about the LAT, but the NYT ran so many pro-Bush, pro-war articles that they got rid of one of their most famous reporters and published a major retraction. http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1225616,00.html.

The NYT also carried the water for the RNC during the Clinton administration in the 1990s and the Gore campaign in 2000. Every anti-Clinton or anti-Gore rumor that came out went right to their front page.

I don't know why Bush supporters bash the NYT.

boneheaddoctor 03-11-2006 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dculkin
I don't know about the LAT, but the NYT ran so many pro-Bush, pro-war articles that they got rid of one of their most famous reporters and published a major retraction. http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1225616,00.html.

The NYT also carried the water for the RNC during the Clinton administration in the 1990s and the Gore campaign in 2000. Every anti-Clinton or anti-Gore rumor that came out went right to their front page.

I don't know why Bush supporters bash the NYT.

maybe its because they are so pro-liberal and anti-conservative. One or two stories does not erase an institutionalized bias that goes back decades upon decades. Once in a while they may get something right. Its the law of averages.

cmac2012 03-12-2006 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor
Liberals have no business talking about propaganda.....anything a liberal utters these days is a bold faced lie....

And the bold faced liars at CBS have been caught doing it...the NYT have been caught doing it....the Washington post has been caught doing it.

NPR will be next.

Find the inqusitive nature to watch "Outfoxed" and you'll see your favorite network in action doing it.

But your line "anything a liberal utters these days is a bold faced lie" is assinine from top to bottom. CBS got caught in the 60 Minutes thing about Bush, no doubt about it. I think that was more of an error in research than an intentional lie. 60 Minutes had a really good piece a few weeks back about a company that developed a drug that proved very effective in ameliorating the effects of radiation poisoning. The DoD expressed great interest and funded more research and encouraged the company bigtime. Just when they were up and running, the Bush Admin. pulled the plug on the whole thing by approving the purchase of only a token amount. 60 Minutes showed footage of the Little Lord Fauntleroy looking fool that Bush had appointed to the post that oversaw such things. If you don't believe me, read the story:

Radiation Sickness Drug

Serious, serious mismanagement in our land and you're not going to hear about it from BILLO.

cmac2012 03-12-2006 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Palangi
I agree, he is a whacko. That's why I change the channel whenever I see him.

There are a lot of blowhard whacko gassbags on radio and tv, Rash Limburger, Al Farken, Michael Moore, etc. Whenever I see one of these 5hitheads, I simply pick up the clicker and change the channel. Makes me feel so much better!! :)


As for your daily Hate America First rant, I can only say...... Dood, your record is stuck.:1blank:

Well, maybe I do go off on it a bit much. If I didn't see such a double standard displayed in our national attitude over and over, I might not be so whacked about it. I read about what we've done in country after country in the post war era, and I hate to say that I would probably hate America too if I was a native of one of those countries. We're swimming upstream if we think we can ignore human nature with impunity like that.

boneheaddoctor 03-12-2006 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmac2012
Find the inqusitive nature to watch "Outfoxed" and you'll see your favorite network in action doing it.

But your line "anything a liberal utters these days is a bold faced lie" is assinine from top to bottom. CBS got caught in the 60 Minutes thing about Bush, no doubt about it. I think that was more of an error in research than an intentional lie. 60 Minutes had a really good piece a few weeks back about a company that developed a drug that proved very effective in ameliorating the effects of radiation poisoning. The DoD expressed great interest and funded more research and encouraged the company bigtime. Just when they were up and running, the Bush Admin. pulled the plug on the whole thing by approving the purchase of only a token amount. 60 Minutes showed footage of the Little Lord Fauntleroy looking fool that Bush had appointed to the post that oversaw such things. If you don't believe me, read the story:

Radiation Sickness Drug

Serious, serious mismanagement in our land and you're not going to hear about it from BILLO.

do you believe Michael Moores rants too? Personally I won't watch any show that is produced by someone with enough of an axe to grind they would spend the time and money to do that....this and anything Micheal Moore puts out suits that description. Nobody with that big a chip on their shoulder like that can be trusted to be honest much less factual.

And CBS and 60 minutes has more than once gotten caught fabricating stories...think back to the GM truck saddle tank issue ...and Rathergate.

cmac2012 03-12-2006 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor
do you believe Michael Moores rants too? Personally I won't watch any show that is produced by someone with enough of an axe to grind they would spend the time and money to do that....this and anything Micheal Moore puts out suits that description. Nobody with that big a chip on their shoulder like that can be trusted to be honest much less factual.

And CBS and 60 minutes has more than once gotten caught fabricating stories...think back to the GM truck saddle tank issue ...and Rathergate.

I don't care for Moore. Too one-dimesional and lacking in cahonnes, other than the smart-a$$ed kind.

The people at 60 Minutes and many other media outlets you disparage are often, almost always I'd bet, speaking the truth as they see it. If you stick your head in the sand and conclude that you and you're crowd are the only ones in the know, you stunt your growth big time. That's why I read the conservative press and watch FOX (some) as well.

Seek ye some expandulation, oh Doctor of Dis-inclination.

boneheaddoctor 03-12-2006 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012
I don't care for Moore. Too one-dimesional and lacking in cahonnes, other than the smart-a$$ed kind.

The people at 60 Minutes and many other media outlets you disparage are often, almost always I'd bet, speaking the truth as they see it. If you stick your head in the sand and conclude that you and you're crowd are the only ones in the know, you stunt your growth big time. That's why I read the conservative press and watch FOX (some) as well.

Seek ye some expandulation, oh Doctor of Dis-inclination.

Do you still believe the disproved Rathergate alligations.....

or how about how we are burning Korans and doing all sort of nasty stuff to the poor misunderstood terrorists like certan media outlets want you to believe? Or how about all this indocrination thats been happening in classrooms when the teachers are supposed to be teaching. No wonder kids can't read or write...despite the cubic dollars being wasted in the schools.


Thats facts...and facts the left wants to ignore.

intelligent 03-12-2006 07:50 PM

I liKE to watch him sometimes because I like comedy. WHAT A PRODUCT OF AN OLD GOAT F_CK!

cmac2012 03-15-2006 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor
Do you still believe the disproved Rathergate alligations.....

or how about how we are burning Korans and doing all sort of nasty stuff to the poor misunderstood terrorists like certan media outlets want you to believe? Or how about all this indocrination thats been happening in classrooms when the teachers are supposed to be teaching. No wonder kids can't read or write...despite the cubic dollars being wasted in the schools.


Thats facts...and facts the left wants to ignore.

I suspect the Rather documents were forgeries. But where in the hell do you get the idea that everything in those phony docs was inaccurate? The guy's secretary said it was a forged document but the information in it was correct. It dovetails with much that is known about the Dubbers.

Here's the bottom line:

Bush supported the war -- many old buds and college professors have affirmed that -- he favored the Goldwater solution.

His daddy was a congressman. He could have gotten any kind of actual military gig he wanted -- flying B-52s, leading a regiment, whatever.

He was content to cheer the troops on from frat row. He got trained as a pilot in the air guard. Jet fighter pilot's training is supposed to cost about $1 million. I've heard real Air Guard pilots say this is unheard of. The normal way is to get the training in the Air Force and serve a term of duty, and THEN semi-retire to the Air Guard.

He did not even finish his guard duty. This beyond dispute. Bush/Rove want the story to be over. It ain't. The guy's a wuss and a phony.

mzsmbs 03-15-2006 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor
Do you still believe the disproved Rathergate alligations.....

or how about how we are burning Korans and doing all sort of nasty stuff to the poor misunderstood terrorists like certan media outlets want you to believe? Or how about all this indocrination thats been happening in classrooms when the teachers are supposed to be teaching. No wonder kids can't read or write...despite the cubic dollars being wasted in the schools.


Thats facts...and facts the left wants to ignore.

so, now nobody has burned Koran's? and it's shrubster that's leaving pairs of kids behind.. talk about a hypocrite

boneheaddoctor 03-15-2006 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmac2012
I suspect the Rather documents were forgeries. But where in the hell do you get the idea that everything in those phony docs was inaccurate? The guy's secretary said it was a forged document but the information in it was correct. It dovetails with much that is known about the Dubbers.

Here's the bottom line:

Bush supported the war -- many old buds and college professors have affirmed that -- he favored the Goldwater solution.

His daddy was a congressman. He could have gotten any kind of actual military gig he wanted -- flying B-52s, leading a regiment, whatever.

He was content to cheer the troops on from frat row. He got trained as a pilot in the air guard. Jet fighter pilot's training is supposed to cost about $1 million. I've heard real Air Guard pilots say this is unheard of. The normal way is to get the training in the Air Force and serve a term of duty, and THEN semi-retire to the Air Guard.

He did not even finish his guard duty. This beyond dispute. Bush/Rove want the story to be over. It ain't. The guy's a wuss and a phony.

simple only a left winger will ASSUME anything about Bush has a basis in truth while argueing that the same accusations against a democrat are patently false...

Fact is until any part of forged documents are proven accurate nothing in a fake document can be assumed to be anything but fraudulant.

He finished his Guard duty...its the left that insists on clinging to this falacy.....

where are Kerrys service records to explain who got the BJ for him to get out of Nam after only 4 months....oh thats right...he never released any of them....ever wonder why?

boneheaddoctor 03-15-2006 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mzsmbs
so, now nobody has burned Koran's? and it's shrubster that's leaving pairs of kids behind.. talk about a hypocrite

its the liberals who are preaching liberal bull**** in schools instead of teaching what they are paid to teach...thats hypocrit. Funny how all those left wing Koran accusations were proven false.......we have tapes of left wing nutcases preaching in class instead to teaching approved subject matter.


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