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eagle-co94 · #1 09-12-2008, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction

What a horrible violation of people's privacy.

LMAO! That's hilarious.

#2 09-12-2008, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by eagle-co94

LMAO! That's hilarious.

How? They are human, they made a mistake, they paid for it. If they did something really horrible they would still be in jail. The vast majority of "sex offenders" are BS "crimes" they did as teenagers that most teens do. Singling them out on a map is just wrong.

How about we make a map with people that got speeding tickets so we can watch out for them on the road?

dannym · #3 09-12-2008, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction

How? They are human, they made a mistake, they paid for it. If they did something really horrible they would still be in jail. The vast majority of "sex offenders" are BS "crimes" they did as teenagers that most teens do. Singling them out on a map is just wrong.

How about we make a map with people that got speeding tickets so we can watch out for them on the road?

Statutory Rape is not something that most teens do. I don't know where your from. Maybe that's OK in Colorado.

I doubt very much you would think it was an invasion of privacy if you had a teenage daughter & lived next door to a child molester.
You wouldn't care right? After all it only a "BS Crime".

#4 09-12-2008, 08:57 PM

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I doubt very much you would think it was an invasion of privacy if you had a teenage daughter & lived next door to a child molester.

I'd be FAR more worried about the many teenage boys in her middle/high school trying to get into her pants. Some perv whacking behind his bedroom wiondow is not a problem. The chances of an actual abduction of a kid that has even a shred of common sense is extremely low.

powerpig · #5 09-12-2008, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction

I'd be FAR more worried about the many teenage boys in her middle/high school trying to get into her pants. Some perv whacking behind his bedroom wiondow is not a problem. The chances of an actual abduction of a kid that has even a shred of common sense is extremely low.

Please don't take this as an attack, but WTF!!! Common sense has nothing to do with abduction! The biggest asset in an abduction is the element of surprise. What the hell does common sense have to do with getting snatched off the street?

#6 09-12-2008, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by powerpig

What the hell does common sense have to do with getting snatched off the street?

Being aware of their surroundings and knowing what signs of danger to look for. Kerry was lucky with his daughter's encounter with a hebephile in their neighborhood, she recognized the problem right away and was quick to react.

Abductions are rarely snatch and run events, they are usually luered/trapped by a trusting figure.

powerpig · #7 09-12-2008, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction

Being aware of their surroundings and knowing what signs of danger to look for. Kerry was lucky with his daughter's encounter with a hebephile in their neighborhood, she recognized the problem right away and was quick to react.

Abductions are rarely snatch and run events, they are usually luered/trapped by a trusting figure.

You are right in a way. So when an Uncle, Grandfather, etc. tries to abduct the child, they should have enough common sense to know what to do? I'm sorry, but you hit a nerve. What about the children that are abducted from their beds? Where does common sense enter there? Unfortunately, the world isn't the one we grew up in. Until you actually cover an abduction from start to finish, you won't know the pain. I've done it, and it isn't pretty.

Gurkha · #8 09-12-2008, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction

I'd be FAR more worried about the many teenage boys in her middle/high school trying to get into her pants. Some perv whacking behind his bedroom wiondow is not a problem. The chances of an actual abduction of a kid that has even a shred of common sense is extremely low.

Thats true though........I would be more worried about hormone driven teen trying to score but abduction and heinous crimes have been commited in the past. Jeffery Dahmer was one prime example, child molesters are dangerous in every sense.

eagle-co94 · #9 09-12-2008, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction

How? They are human, they made a mistake, they paid for it. If they did something really horrible they would still be in jail. The vast majority of "sex offenders" are BS "crimes" they did as teenagers that most teens do. Singling them out on a map is just wrong.

How about we make a map with people that got speeding tickets so we can watch out for them on the road?

They made a mistake and abused a child and possibly scarred them for life. Where's the line drawn? If/when I have kids I don't want to worry about them walking home from school because of a sex offender living on the route home.

I'm going to guess you think it's wrong for people convicted of DUI's to have their pictures in the paper too? Sorry, don't screw up and there will be no problem.

Go ahead and light my house up like a christmas tree. I know that my speeding in the past caused zero accidents and harmed nobody.

aklim · #10 09-12-2008, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction

How? They are human, they made a mistake, they paid for it. If they did something really horrible they would still be in jail. The vast majority of "sex offenders" are BS "crimes" they did as teenagers that most teens do. Singling them out on a map is just wrong.

How about we make a map with people that got speeding tickets so we can watch out for them on the road?

I thought Juvie crimes are sealed when the guy becomes an adult?

If someone feels so threatened by it, go for it.

aklim · #11 09-12-2008, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction

How? They are human, they made a mistake, they paid for it.

If they did something really horrible they would still be in jail.

Singling them out on a map is just wrong.

Maybe this is part of the payment. That they be registered.

Murderers are also let free so they are not necessarily in jail.

So is what they did.

BENZ-LGB · #12 09-12-2008, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction

How? They are human, they made a mistake, they paid for it. If they did something really horrible they would still be in jail. The vast majority of "sex offenders" are BS "crimes" they did as teenagers that most teens do. Singling them out on a map is just wrong.

How about we make a map with people that got speeding tickets so we can watch out for them on the road?

I don't know where you live so I can't comment on that.

In California, in order to have to register as a sex offender you have to have done more than just "cop a feel" as a teenager. See California Penal Code Sec. 290.

Overall, sex offenders (child molesters and rapists) have the highest recividism rate. I have prosecuted sex offenders who began committing sex crimes even before I entered law school. Sexual behavior is hard-wired into their brain and nothing short of a lobotomy (or chemical castration) will work. Prolonged incarceration is the only real protection we have.

In California we try to keep repeat sex offenders behind bars with laws like the "the three strikes" law and civil commitments under the Sexually Violent Predator law.

I agree with you on one thing, however.

Services like "rotten neighbors" stink. Anyone can post anything he wants about his neighbors and not worry about consequences. That is the real problem IMO.

aklim · #13 09-12-2008, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BENZ-LGB

Overall, sex offenders (child molesters and rapists) have the highest recividism rate.

But that number you have is not really accurate. The problem is that they need to be caught doing it again. First time around, they are more clumsy about it. 2nd time around, they are usually going to have learned something about it and more likely to be even more careful. That is, unless you have a total moron. So, just because you have a recividism rate, it only covers it if the get caught a 2nd time. Therefore, I think that the rate is going to be higher than what your statistics show.

BENZ-LGB · #14 09-12-2008, 04:51 PM

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But that number you have is not really accurate. The problem is that they need to be caught doing it again. First time around, they are more clumsy about it. 2nd time around, they are usually going to have learned something about it and more likely to be even more careful. That is, unless you have a total moron. So, just because you have a recividism rate, it only covers it if the get caught a 2nd time. Therefore, I think that the rate is going to be higher than what your statistics show.

Aklim, I did not post a number. I wrote that they have the highest recividism rate.

As with all crimes, repeat offenders are not often caught thus skewing the stats on the low side.

Sexual predators (child molesters in this case), as you saw on that TV show, are a different breed. Most of them don't think that they are doing anything wrong. Either that, or they think that they are too smart to ever get caught. So we catch a lot of them.

Plantman · #15 09-12-2008, 06:29 PM

I was looking for that number myself. You know he likes to make things up.