US army suicides hit record high - Page 2 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

Kuan · #1 01-30-2009, 01:27 PM

Mental illness doesn't mean they cannot contribute. Many brilliant people are mentally ill.

aklim · #2 01-30-2009, 02:01 PM

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Mental illness doesn't mean they cannot contribute. Many brilliant people are mentally ill.

Maybe so but are many mentally ill people brilliant? I don't think that most of the mentally ill can contribute.

Botnst · #3 01-30-2009, 02:02 PM

It's probably th fault of the danged Juden. I mean Jews. Sorry.

cmac2012 · #4 01-30-2009, 09:13 PM

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It's probably th fault of the danged Juden. I mean Jews. Sorry.

Mmm yahhsss . . . Just the trivial rantings of lesser beings.

Just ignore them and go back to your vital work . . . I mean that which you do when you aren't online on gubmint computers.

Botnst · #5 01-30-2009, 11:43 PM

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Mmm yahhsss . . . Just the trivial rantings of lesser beings.

Just ignore them and go back to your vital work . . . I mean that which you do when you aren't online on gubmint computers.

I'm on line from my home computer, Mr Computer Genius. You're batting 1,000 so far.

MTI · #6 01-30-2009, 01:29 PM

Seems like someone could use a little therapy . . .

aklim · #7 01-30-2009, 02:02 PM

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Seems like someone could use a little therapy . . .

No problem. Find me a bunch of mindfawks that can agree on the diagnosis, treatment and time required. Like I said, would you accept your mechanic or house builder if they worked on the same terms?

MTI · #8 01-30-2009, 05:08 PM

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No problem. Find me a bunch of mindfawks that can agree on the diagnosis, treatment and time required. Like I said, would you accept your mechanic or house builder if they worked on the same terms?

By attempting to live in such a black and white world with guarantees, where lives and loves are merely mechanisms that wear and fail . . . you must be extremely disappointed with the experience so far . . . how long have you hated this existence?

aklim · #9 01-30-2009, 05:16 PM

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By attempting to live in such a black and white world with guarantees, you must be extremely disappointed with the experience so far . . .

how long have you hated this existence?

Lower the expectations, lessen the disappointments and increase the pleasant surprises. Sure, a little bit of color is fine but when it becomes one huge melange, I find that a little hard to accept. If you want to call mindfawking an art, fair enough. For me to take it seriously as a science, not as it stands.

Well, it all started from when I was young. My father would beat me and my mommy didn't love me enough. Wehn I was in school, the kids would bully me because Mom and Dad dressed me differently. You could say I had a bad childhood. Even in high school, classmates were throwing grass sod at me during PT times. That makes me hate PT. Whenever asked to exercise, I think of those moments. As a result, I am 200# overweight. It isn't my fault. It all started from my childhood. Because of me being overweight and not able to exercise, I can't get a date. That makes me hate myself even more. I am so angry with life, I just want to go to a gym and pee in the pool.

LUVMBDiesels · #10 01-30-2009, 06:34 PM

Any suicides are a tragedy.

However, look at the Russian numbers. Similar sized army but twice the suicides.

USA:
QUOTE:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7859797.stm
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The rate of suicides among soldiers in the US army has risen to a record level for the second year in a row.
The army said there were 128 confirmed suicides in 2008, with a further 15 deaths still under investigation.
Military officials said they did not know why the number has kept increasing but that the stress of conflicts overseas had had a significant impact.
The army has said it is committed to addressing the issue and has introduced training to raise awareness.
"This is a challenge of the highest order for us," said US Army Secretary Pete Geren.
"Why do the numbers keep going up? We cannot tell you. But we can tell you that across the army, we're committed to doing everything we can to address the problem."
Conflict stress
About 35% of the suicides were of soldiers who had never been deployed, while 30% were soldiers who were on active service - three quarters of them on their first tour of duty.
Another 35% took place after deployment, mostly more than a year after the soldier had returned home."

RUSSIA:

QUOTE:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7425694.stm
"Almost an entire battalion of Russian soldiers committed suicide last year, the country's chief military prosecutor has said.
A total of 341 military personnel killed themselves in 2007, a reduction of 15% on the previous year.
But Sergei Fridinsky said the numbers were worrying and called for a national strategy to prepare men for service.
Bullying, often extremely violent, is rife in the army and is the most common reason for suicide.
"Almost a battalion of military servicemen - 341 people - were irrevocably lost in the past year as a result of suicide," Mr Fridinsky said.""

Both the US and Russia have to work on reducing this