Of course there is discrimination based on race. We have racial quotes at colleges, in fed business contracts a percentage must be given to races other than white- etc. The major reason race is asked on the census is in order to determine how much money destined for a group based on race will go to that location. One person gets money in a local and another does not based on what?- race. Discrimination goes both ways.

Skin color is not a primary racial trait. There are members of the Caucasian race that present skin color as dark as the Negro race.

I'm just using the dictionary definition.


race
2   /reɪs/ Show Spelled[reys] Show IPA
–noun
1.
a group of persons related by common descent or heredity.
2.
a population so related.
3.
Anthropology.
a.
any of the traditional divisions of humankind, the commonest being the Caucasian, Mongoloid, and Negro, characterized by supposedly distinctive and universal physical characteristics: no longer in technical use.
b.
an arbitrary classification of modern humans, sometimes, esp. formerly, based on any or a combination of various physical characteristics, as skin color, facial form, or eye shape, and now frequently based on such genetic markers as blood groups.
c.
a human population partially isolated reproductively from other populations, whose members share a greater degree of physical and genetic similarity with one another than with other humans.

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I'm just using personal observation.
What race would an albino belong to?

How about albino?

See 3b

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Seems we have two real world race definitions:
One is race a individual believes they belong to; the other is the race others believe they belong to according to the view of race they have. Both are inside the mind of individuals and not "real", since they can change based on the experience of the person.

That's my point, thank you.

Of course it goes "both ways" which some would see as the result of it going "one way" for much too long.

You're welcome. That was my point also. Race is arbitrary but it does exist.

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Albanian.

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The obvious question is then, "How does one BEST address the problems of historical racism?
The two solutions that spring to mind are,
1) " Reverse discrimination" which is still racial discrimination only aimed to help the race that was historically hurt.
2) End all racial discrimination and set-asides. This would be the true, "anti-discrimination" solution as it would ban all future use of race for either positive or negative results. People would be truly judged on the content of their character.

There was a book a few years ago that purported to show that in the history of civilization, whenever a society made a decision to favor one specific race, it always worked that detriment of that race. Are we somehow better or smarter than all who have gone before?

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Eh? The old your great grand dad might have done bad things to my great grand dad so you need to give me money. I'll collect the money even though your great grand dad could have never met mine.

What about vulcans and klingons?

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Or, the other way to look at it . . . manifest destiny had a price that hasn't been fully paid yet.

Yes, or I look at it like this- Aklim and his family could get jobs and work I could not because he is a minority and I am not. Now he is a recent immigrant- and his family was not here before, ever. So I, and all non minorities are essentially giving him $ even despite the fact our ancestors never met and lived on different continents. Of I could look at it like this: BHO's mom's family could have owned as slaves some of BHO's dad's family, and so he gets opportunities/$$$ and I don't, and on top of that I have to pay for those opportunities?
Anytime someone else falls down and I get the skinned knees I tend to object. I'd like to pay for my mistakes, not someones I never met who lived hundreds of years prior to my birth, based on my skin color alone. It's especially hard because at the time the "mistakes" were not considered mistakes and the folks who owned slaves did so without breaking laws. If I told you that hundreds of years from now your "kids" would be paying my "kids" because of what you are doing now hundreds of miles from me and we never met, all legally and without guilt- we'd all be laughing at how stupid that is. Okay maybe you wouldn't because your kids would be paying my kids.