Anyone have any comments on the Volvo S40? I test drove one the other day, and it was pretty nice for a small 4 cylander front wheel drive car. The steering felt more solid than the S60, which I know has been criticized for its over assisted steering. I think there may be some reliability problems with the S40, as I think there might be with all modern Volvos. I've never owned one though.

I also drove the following:

Saab 9-3. Didn't like it. Steering felt over assisted, but not as bad as Volvo S60. Didn't drive straight, but this was probably just a simple allignment problem. It was ok, but just ok.

Saturn L 200 and 300. Actually liked these cars alot. Felt solid and drove well. Obviously very utilitarian, however. But I think a great car for the money. The 200 with manual transmission was fun, but the 300, which only comes with automatic, was quieter and of course more powerful. I preferred both these cars to the Saab or Volvo S60.

Mercedes C 230 Coupe. Fantastic car. One of the most enjoyable cars I've ever driven, really. Everything just felt right. Smooth, stable, good power, steering just right, suspension firm but very comfortable. Only complaint was that I didn't think the speakers were very good, and the cloth upholstory isn't great. I think its just a little too small for my needs though. Also, with some options like the sun roof, automatic, leather and sport wheels, I think the price is over $30,000, which is starting to get high for the car.

I don't know too much about the S40, but if you're considering buying a new one, I'd suggest you check out a late model S70 or V70. These are the last of the true Volvos. Yeah, I know, both are front-wheel drive, but still!

the Volvo S40 and the Mitsubishi Carisma share the same platform.

that's why it's a bit different from the other models.

Thanks Bobby, I did not know the S40 shared a platform.

Here's another beguiling choice for an AWD car, if one is looking for a second daily driver. I see lots of these out in the Pacific Northwest, and there are always several on Autotrader.com. Anyway, it is a "purebred German inline-six autobahn burner" with a reliable AWD system.

From the BMW 325iX Registry: http://home.earthlink.net/~hainesinutah/iX/

"The 325iX was produced from '86 through '91 and imported into the U.S. for model years '88-'91. The iX has a viscous coupling (filled with silicone) in the drivetrain to split torque front to rear and another in the rear differential to provide a limited slip function. Handling in the dry is quite satisfactory in stock form and pretty awesome on slippery surfaces. With with a few modifications (like cutting the front springs to lower the front 1-1/2 inches, adding a stiff rear bar, installing Bilstein or Koni sport shocks and a Dinan chip, upgrading bushings and running Dunlop D40M2's), an iX will run with any E30 on a dry track. On a snowy surface, an iX fitted with a good set of snow tires (particularly with studded Hakkapelitta 10's) will absolutely leave any vehicle in a cloud of snow.*"

"The iX is really in it's glory in inclement weather. Yes, BMW's Traction Control is very effective in preventing spin-outs and in allowing a mind-numb driver to accelerate gradually on a slippery surface. But there is nothing like all four tires clawing at the snow. Even on the most slippery surfaces the iX can accelerate at full throttle after the first several yards. The ABS which includes a special program (not included in the ordinary 325) for low friction surfaces is also very impressive. Jeeps!, Ford Exploders, ExcuseYous, Chevy Blazeers and Subaru Doubtbacks have no idea what left them at the stop light. If you love BMWs and need a car for all seasons, this is your car!"

Hope this helps,

-Sam

interesting that you include the big Saturns which are european derived. they appear to be good values but from what i understand, they are the most problematic Saturns ever!

i liked the Subaru until i saw it up close. somehow, the car looks small, i don't know what it is, it just appears small...

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I have had a 91 since 95 and with four Nokian all-seasons , it can't be stopped in snow (I'm in the Chicago western suburbs). Gas mileage is not so hot though. The MBtex interior looks new after 11 years. The stock radio is awful but the cd player sounds good. I have the third seat and can haul kids, stuff or whatever with ease. I know the "old" 4-matics have a dubious reputation for maintenance, but (knock in wood) I've not had a problem. My brother has an 88 300TD that is rear drive only that he says is quite decent in snow. Plus if some one in their SUV nails you on a snowey day, the extra $ for the 300 will be a great bargain.

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volvos are the bolshivicks favorite cars.They are also much loved by the paranoid with a few exceptions.

Two close friends of mine, one owns a 2002 C230K & one owns the 2002 S40, are both very happy with their vehicles. I was with them when they initially test drove the cars, up to their ultimate purchase.

The Volvo did not impress as much as I would have expected, in my opinion. Engine noise is significant compared to the C230K, especially when the turbo is called upon. Also, the S40's exterior finish is a bit disappointing for a car in its class. The seams between the trunk and the tail lights are significantly unveven from left to right. In terms of reliability, the Volvo has been trouble free and has served his family's purpose.

As for the C230K, I found that engine noise was less significant in the cabin. The car is also "cleaner," with all seams quite even throughout. Unfortunately, the car does lack the S40's 4 -door versatility.

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Goh! I must jump in!. This is our 4th Volvo. I have had two 700 series, an s70 and this 02' v70. They all have been great cars!

I drove a V40 and it was just too small for our needs. It seemed real narrow. Everything inside seemed miniature. I thought I was driving a go-cart. Quick little 4 turbo! Very peppy. I had to have the V70 for size.

I do not miss my 98' s70 compared to this new one we have. The s70 had to much engine vibration and you could feel the tranny shift in the steering wheel. It was also a little weak for my taste. A c230 is a little peppier. I am speaking both non-turbo(kompressor). A/C smelled bad. Never could get rid of the scent.

My 02' V70 is very smooth except when you turn it off and when you turn it on. It feels like the engine is starting on no mounts or dampers. The steering is heavily power assisted taking away that heavy feel like an MB or an older Volvo. It no longer feels like a tank. It sure sails down the freeway though! Straight as an arrow. Alot better than my S70. I use cruise to keep my speed down but my wife does not use cruise and goes 90 or better down I-75 without noticing. I had to follow her in my poor old Wagoneer the other day and I could not push it any harder. the needle was buried and I could smell gas! I called her on the cell and said "you follow me."

Great car though! I will keep this one a long time! I have too it nearly broke the bank at $36k and some change. Good luck.

later,

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