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Old 12-27-2012, 01:14 PM
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LOTS of people in the ground from a .22 or .25.
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Old 12-27-2012, 01:46 PM
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I would hate to depend on hitting an intruder in the eye in the middle of the night in the dark.

Of course a perfectly placed 22 is lethal, I believe it may be the weapon of choice when a hit is made in controlled circumstances. Not much recoil or noise and minimal mess.
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Old 12-27-2012, 01:48 PM
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I would hate to depend on hitting an intruder in the eye in the middle of the night in the dark.

Of course a perfectly placed 22 is lethal, I believe it may be the weapon of choice when a hit is made in controlled circumstances. Not much recoil or noise and minimal mess.
two or three well placed .22s in the groin area (below navel and above balls) will put most people down, esp if its a .22 LRHP
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Old 12-27-2012, 02:09 PM
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two or three well placed .22s in the groin area (below navel and above balls) will put most people down, esp if its a .22 LRHP
Again, I would not want to count on being able to make three well placed shots in the dark. I feel I'd be lucky to hit the center of the torso under duress.

Heck, I bet a torso shot with my 12 ga will knock a man out even if he has a vest on...possibly stop his heart too.
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Old 12-27-2012, 02:20 PM
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Again, I would not want to count on being able to make three well placed shots in the dark. I feel I'd be lucky to hit the center of the torso under duress.

Heck, I bet a torso shot with my 12 ga will knock a man out even if he has a vest on...possibly stop his heart too.
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Old 12-27-2012, 11:38 PM
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It may not have penetrated the vest but it sure knocked a hole in the plywood behind it.

I do have some 00 buck loads for it.
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Old 12-27-2012, 04:53 PM
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I would hate to depend on hitting an intruder in the eye in the middle of the night in the dark.

Of course a perfectly placed 22 is lethal, I believe it may be the weapon of choice when a hit is made in controlled circumstances. Not much recoil or noise and minimal mess.
Uhh.. this is the internet. Everyone is 6'4", has visible abs, and can shoot the wings off a gnat at 500 yards... in the dark
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Old 12-28-2012, 12:29 AM
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Uhh.. this is the internet. Everyone is 6'4", has visible abs, and can shoot the wings off a gnat at 500 yards... in the dark
Do you mean Male or Female?

I don't need the extra 4"s but envy the rest of the description.
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:37 AM
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LOTS of people in the ground from a .22 or .25.
There is a sort of urban legend that the .22 has killed more than any other caliber, or something. I don't know if there's any truth to it, but you hear it all the time. FBI recently released 2010 stats on LEOs killed in action. Most frequent caliber was .38sp and .40.
I really don't like shooting .40, way too snappy and hard to control. I fooled around with cutting powder weights way down on .40 reloads to the bare minimum that would cycle a pistol I had. Still didn't like it.
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Old 12-28-2012, 10:58 AM
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There is a sort of urban legend that the .22 has killed more than any other caliber, or something. I don't know if there's any truth to it, but you hear it all the time. FBI recently released 2010 stats on LEOs killed in action. Most frequent caliber was .38sp and .40.
I really don't like shooting .40, way too snappy and hard to control. I fooled around with cutting powder weights way down on .40 reloads to the bare minimum that would cycle a pistol I had. Still didn't like it.
There was a time in the past were a lot of House Holds had a .22 Rifle or even a Piston for hunting small game or small varmints around their House or Farm.

It is also sort of a starter caliber that beginners use. My Father started Me off on a .22 Rifle and when I bought a Hand Gun the fist on was a .22.

So I am speculating that it is likely due to the sheer numbers of the .22 caliber Guns and the fact they are handled by beginners it has caused more accidental deaths than the other calibers.

If the it is a case that the Slide is not going back far enough it maybe someone makes a reduced tension Recoil Spring for target Shooting (I don't know what Gun you are using so I don't know if it is any sort of competition.)
A lower power Recoil Spring might not strip the Bullets out of the Magazine easily. But, if it worked it would be a cheap fix.
If you did that you would also need to remember not to shot the full power loads in it.

Install a Muzzle Brake? they decrease the Muzzle flip (sort of levering your Hand and Wrist) upwards; and the Brake directs the push of the Gun to a more straighter backwards push. I have no experience with them.

A more expensive option is if you could convert it to 9mm.

A cheap but harder way to would be to lift some Weights or other excersizes to build up the Muscle Mass in your wrists and Arms to dampen the reciol.
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Old 12-28-2012, 04:44 PM
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My dad shot competitively both rifle and pistol. He was pretty good. He said if you want to get to be a good shot with a 45 or a 38 or other large caliber handguns, get an identical weapon in operation weight and so forth in 22 caliber and shoot thousands of rounds with it. Practicing with the heavy caliber gun makes you flinch when you squeeze off the trigger and you can't hit much at all.
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Old 12-29-2012, 09:20 AM
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If the it is a case that the Slide is not going back far enough it maybe someone makes a reduced tension Recoil Spring for target Shooting (I don't know what Gun you are using so I don't know if it is any sort of competition.)
A lower power Recoil Spring might not strip the Bullets out of the Magazine easily. But, if it worked it would be a cheap fix.
If you did that you would also need to remember not to shot the full power loads in it.

Install a Muzzle Brake? they decrease the Muzzle flip (sort of levering your Hand and Wrist) upwards; and the Brake directs the push of the Gun to a more straighter backwards push. I have no experience with them.

A more expensive option is if you could convert it to 9mm.

A cheap but harder way to would be to lift some Weights or other excersizes to build up the Muscle Mass in your wrists and Arms to dampen the reciol.
It was a Beretta 96F. Not exactly a tupperware pistol. I sold it. .40 is not my cuppa tea. After a lifetime of hand milking goats and cows and team roping steers my wrist strength is not an issue. Yeah, I could do all that stuff, but why? Give me a .45, Colt or ACP no matter. Any day.
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