Similar 'landing' short of the threshold at LHR was ice pellets in the RR engine fuel supply.

Not always PE.


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Bet you lunch that it's PE.

You in?

My friend Spud ran away like a scared chicken.............all hat...........no cattle.

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No surprise.

The situation with BA and the RR engines bears no resemblance to this accident, and you know it.

Well, the RR engine fuel system has been redesigned and I doubt other engine builders..ie" GE, didn't get to check theirs too.

Now lookee here...I said it is not always PE, not, it couldn't be. The jet had just descended from 350 so it was in -55f air temperatures just like the BA flight.
Just tryin' to give the poor PiC a break.

Seems now he was a NooB on the 777.



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Just landed at SFO next to the debris field.

Very surreal.

Latest news reports are indicating that one of the fatalities was alive until she was run over by an emergency vehicle.

Horrible all the way around.

Man catches plane crash on camera - YouTube

Amateur video of crash. It is from a distance but you can see the plane cartwheel. I am amazed that it didn't kill everyone on board.

Sorry if this is a repost.

As I said to Spud............"it could be anything".

But, since we are armchair quarterbacks, we get to make an educated guess prior to the NTSB report.

Since we are making educated guesses, my humble opinion says PE..........especially when considering he was very new to the aircraft and never landed at SFO before.

Very true.

Now they report one survivor, thrown clear, was run over by an emergency vehicle.!
How unfortunate can you get?

I remember the Sioux City crash when emergency crews thought 'what are all these people doing out here.' not realizing they where passengers thrown clear or had got out.



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I'm in for PE too. I stayed @ a Holiday Inn last month, so I feel comfortable with the guess.

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Yeah, that's it! Ice pellets over San Francisco Bay in July!

Look folks. The NTSB has already released the most important information in the info from the flight recorders. It tells the story that allows for a conclusion that is probably 99% accurate. They allowed it to get low and slow. That's it. The rest of the investigation is formality.

The only thing left to determine is the exact procedural issue that led to it.

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